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    update to led bulbs now

    home depot has 2 phillips 60 watt leds for 5 bucks that's a great deal.they only pull 8.5 watts and put out 60 watts of light

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    Quote Originally Posted by windhchaser View Post
    home depot has 2 phillips 60 watt leds for 5 bucks that's a great deal.they only pull 8.5 watts and put out 60 watts of light
    Decent deal if you don't need the ability to dim the lights.

    Just a technicality, they're spec'd to put out 800 lumens of light. That's roughly equivalent to the light output of a 60W incandescent bulb. If we could really put in 8.5W of electricity and get 60W of light we'd set the first law of thermodynamics on its head and revolutionize the entire energy industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gpburdell View Post
    Decent deal if you don't need the ability to dim the lights.

    Just a technicality, they're spec'd to put out 800 lumens of light. That's roughly equivalent to the light output of a 60W incandescent bulb. If we could really put in 8.5W of electricity and get 60W of light we'd set the first law of thermodynamics on its head and revolutionize the entire energy industry.
    yeah I wasn't to clear

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    Quote Originally Posted by gpburdell View Post
    Decent deal if you don't need the ability to dim the lights.

    Just a technicality, they're spec'd to put out 800 lumens of light. That's roughly equivalent to the light output of a 60W incandescent bulb. If we could really put in 8.5W of electricity and get 60W of light we'd set the first law of thermodynamics on its head and revolutionize the entire energy industry.
    You can get dimmers for them... I did it for my son's room. $20 ain't cheap, but it did the job for an indestructible night-light for a 4-year-old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbenaugust View Post
    You can get dimmers for them...
    Yes, they can often be made to work but results can be unpredictable depending on the lamp and dimmer specifics when you're not using dimmable LEDs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by windhchaser View Post
    home depot has 2 phillips 60 watt leds for 5 bucks that's a great deal.they only pull 8.5 watts and put out 60 watts of light
    fyi my local store did not have that deal. I went when I first saw this thread
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    We have 8 can lights in our kitchen. When we moved in they were halogen bulbs...not only were they hot but they drew so much current through the simmer switch that the switch plate would get very hot. I dropped about $120 at Costco for the 75w equivalent dimmable LEDs and have been amazed at their performance. They dim perfectly, are really bright (16' ceiling) and the switch plate stays very cool, which to me, indicates a dramatic reduction in the current draw. But the $120 stung.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
    fyi my local store did not have that deal. I went when I first saw this thread
    yeah they was sold as fast as they was put on shelf sadly

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    I haven't tried any yet but I'm interested in them.

    I have a number of the fluorescent bulbs and I don't like them. Some of them start out very dim and gradually get brighter. Some of them are weird colors. Some of them have gotten dimmer as they have gotten older. And I seem to have a higher than expected rate of failures. Yes the bulbs are supposed to last a long time but they have cheap electronics in them that don't seem to be very reliable.

    I have been an LED flashlight fan for a long time. I hope the household bulbs will eventually work as well.

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    Nearly all of mine are CFL. I've found that the stock CFLs in new light fixtures do not last long. Also, the regular corkscrew-shaped ones take a while (maybe 15 minutes or so) to reach their peak illumination. For a table lamp, that can be a bit annoying when I want to just want to read. That said, I wouldn't go back to incandescents. And as has been mentioned, CFLs' requirement for less juice means less heat. Switching to CFLs in an older [previously 4-bulb] bathroom fixture at my previous house actually resulted in much better light for bathroom activities (hairdressing, makeup, etc).

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    Currently the Par 20s that fit the recessed sockets in my kitchen area are running about $20 apiece at HD.

    Philips 50W Equivalent Bright White (3000K) PAR20 Dimmable LED Flood Light Bulb (E*)-426114 - The Home Depot

    I think I'll wait a bit until the price comes down.

    I use these PAR 20 lamps in recessed fixtures all over the house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dstrong View Post
    We have 8 can lights in our kitchen. When we moved in they were halogen bulbs...not only were they hot but they drew so much current through the simmer switch that the switch plate would get very hot. I dropped about $120 at Costco for the 75w equivalent dimmable LEDs and have been amazed at their performance. They dim perfectly, are really bright (16' ceiling) and the switch plate stays very cool, which to me, indicates a dramatic reduction in the current draw. But the $120 stung.
    I'm not looking forward to the price tag, but we have can lights all over our house with spots that I need to replace at some point. The nice thing will be that I won't have to replace them as often when it's done. I think I've got 14 on the first floor, 15 on the second, and 3 in the basement. Ouch that's going to hurt when the time comes. Might not need dimmables for 9 of them though.

    Do the dimmable LED lights work with normal dimmers? I'd hate to have to buy new dimmers for all my switches too.
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    I didn't change out dimmers and I don't think there's such a thing as an "LED Dimmer". We found that only the "warmest" bulbs gave us the light we wanted. I think it's the 2700s. Even the 3000s seemed too harsh for our taste. We actually tried several over the course of a few months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dstrong View Post
    I didn't change out dimmers and I don't think there's such a thing as an "LED Dimmer". We found that only the "warmest" bulbs gave us the light we wanted. I think it's the 2700s. Even the 3000s seemed too harsh for our taste. We actually tried several over the course of a few months.
    While not LED specifically... some dimmers work better than others due to the loading on the dimmer...

    Understand triac dimmer issues to ensure compatibility (MAGAZINE) - LEDs

    Many consumers have turned to dimmers or automated dimming controls over standard light switches because dimmed lighting can reduce energy use and offer ambiance. The problem, however, is that nearly all dimmers found in homes today were designed for standard incandescent lamps.
    When using an energy-efficient bulb, the homeowner generally expects an experience similar to what incandescent lamps provide. Although some LED lamps are marked as compatible with incandescent dimmers, there are various degrees of what can be defined as “compatible.” Dimmable LED lamps tend to interact quite differently when used with these legacy devices. A number of undesirable results may occur when you use a dimmable LED lamp with an incandescent dimmer, including:
    • Reduced dimming range
    • Flickering or fluttering of the lamp
    • Inconsistent performance based on the number and assortment of lamps being controlled by one incandescent dimmer

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    Hey here is a question... do they make outdoor LED bug-away lights? I saw one that offered 200 lumens... but is that the equivalent of the yellow outdoor floodlight I now have?

    I want a flood light... it is a big yard... but I don't want to attract insects as the light fixture is right over a big patio door.

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