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    RIFed

    Laid off, downsized, fired, given the boot. But with severance through June, kids out of the house and both of us suffering a bit of wanderlust anyway, I'm not exactly broken up by this chain of events. Options abound. The challenge is figuring out how to use the next seven months. The cautious approach is to go full time into job search mode immediately; best case I end up getting paid double for a while. That's not the least bit enticing.

    I'm wondering, since I plan to leave Indiana anyway, why the heck should I stay here in the cold after my daughter heads back home from her Christmas visit? I'm thinking I can job search from damn near anywhere.

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    If you can afford the luxury of waiting I'd enjoy it while I could.

    I haven't enjoyed such luxury until volunteering for layoff during a slow period a couple years ago at which point I retired. Before that is was all about surviving until a payday when jobless.
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    What to do all depends on your situation. Do keep in mind that your shelf life on unemployment is about 6 months before they start looking at your resume as too dusty. It depends on how in demand your skills are.

    But it's a whole new ballgame. Probably time to explore your opportunities. When I was laid off in 2010, I got an opportunity to write a book so I followed that to help burn off my burn out. that's led to a series of books that now account for about half of my income. I'm writing one now. I also used the time to be involved in the community and go to relevant trade shows and conferences. I got to all three coasts.

    It can be a wonderful opportunity. But stay alert.
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    ...and expect to encounter age discrimination at or after the age of fifty years old.
    Best,

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjkoko View Post
    ...and expect to encounter age discrimination at or after the age of 50 years old.
    Amen...
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    ...ixnay on the exsay alktay.

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    Buy an EPIC pass and go skiing for 4 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjkoko View Post
    ...and expect to encounter age discrimination at or after the age of fifty years old.
    All the more reason to start looking now, even if just in a very low key way.
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    I was RIFed due to completion of mission in August 2012 and rode out the severance pay with Cobra insurance until December 2012 when I took a pay cut to continue my federal employment as my Severance pay was going to run out in March 2013. I would recommend putting as much as you can aside for when your severance runs out, but use enough to have some fun as well.

    I now have 21.75 years federal time, and am hoping to retire at age 50 with 26 years federal service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dagray View Post
    I was RIFed due to completion of mission in August 2012 and rode out the severance pay with Cobra insurance until December 2012 when I took a pay cut to continue my federal employment as my Severance pay was going to run out in March 2013. I would recommend putting as much as you can aside for when your severance runs out, but use enough to have some fun as well.
    A wise approach. Ageism is very real.

    Maybe rather than look for a job willy nilly and doing a resume blast, the OP might want to consider what he really wants to do, what is required to do it and in between fun trips and activities, volunteer doing exactly what he would like to be doing, or get training in it or find some way to boost his credentials. Go to a local job fair and talk with every one of the resume checkers just to see what they say. Or start forming a business.

    My writing a book was good and it did get me some interviews, unfortunately the position I really wanted went to the fellow who wrote the book competing with mine, and he was younger. The current book I'm writing, is about topics I've yet to master. So creating the book is my way of mastering them and producing a proof of learning, without having to pay for expensive schooling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjforrestal View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artkansas View Post
    What to do all depends on your situation. Do keep in mind that your shelf life on unemployment is about 6 months before they start looking at your resume as too dusty. It depends on how in demand your skills are.
    I've done a large amount of hiring in a field with lots of activity, demand, and resume responses - government consulting. If someone's resume had an employment gap over a few weeks and didn't highlight a good explanation, it got passed over. There were just too many other applicants to take a chance.

    I would try and get a job asap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StanSeven View Post
    I've done a large amount of hiring in a field with lots of activity, demand, and resume responses - government consulting. If someone's resume had an employment gap over a few weeks and didn't highlight a good explanation, it got passed over. There were just too many other applicants to take a chance.

    I would try and get a job asap.
    Explain that. It makes no sense to me.

    It assumes just because you have no "visible means of support" you're some kind of criminal.

    I've always had a pretty nice cushion of savings, no debt outside of a mortgage that was easily in my budget, investments that paid dividends. If I couldn't find work that interested me I wouldn't work until I had to. Then I find I have to explain myself. The Government was the worst. I recently had a 7 year background check and they were totally suspicious of a couple times I just couldn't find work I liked and really didn't feel a lot of pressure to take a crappy job just to be "employed".
    Quote Originally Posted by 3alarmer View Post
    ...ixnay on the exsay alktay.

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    Also remember most employers are affected with 'Goldilocks Syndrome'; if you're even a bit overqualified (too hot) or a bit underqualified (too cold), they don't want you. They're only looking for someone to fill the current job opening, not planning ahead for future needs, so don't over sell yourself. Don't put excess credentials/degrees/etc on your resume.

    I was unemployed a while ago and am lucky enough to not to have got my masters degree at the same school as my bachelors; if a job didn't require an advanced degree I didn't put it on my resume (and its NOT on my Linked-In page either).
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    You can always "re-invent yourself" and go into a new field of work. That's what I after all my years in the I.T. industry dried up/fizzled out/went overseas/etc..etc..

    After years of Unix servers, databases, and even mainframes, I was viewed as a "dinosaur". It was like I woke up one day and the whole world was solid Windows based, and migrating more and more towards Apps. So.... I took a long hard look at myself and decided that since I still have my US Coast Guard retirement pension paying my mortgage, I was going to be okay. Why not scale back a few things, refinance the house, pay a few things off while I could, etc... and was glad I did at the time!

    I took a 180 turn and went to the county public schools' training school, got my CDL class B with endorsements, and became a school bus driver. It's a steady job that is almost guaranteed to NEVER die out. The pay obviously is nowhere's near what I made in the I.T. world - not by a long shot - but at least it's a job and the hours are great! 3 hours in the AM for bus runs taking kids to school, and you go back home for a bit. The go back and do 3 hours in the PM and take all the little munchkins back home. Plus, you get the summers off with pay!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ButchA View Post
    You can always "re-invent yourself" and go into a new field of work. That's what I after all my years in the I.T. industry dried up/fizzled out/went overseas/etc..etc...........
    ...the same exact thing with me but I reinvented myself as a correctional officer. And in just over three months I'll be vested in the retirement system which is something I could have never imagined before. Wow, a retirement paycheck although a bit small. Mmmmm mmmmmmm. I'm whistling Dixie like never before!!!!!!!!!!!! Y'all!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Best,

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    those billions of Asians are wanting to learn English to answer phones for tech service .. and Sales..

    somebody goes there to teach them.. (& its Tropical)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjkoko View Post
    ...and expect to encounter age discrimination at or after the age of fifty years old.
    Definitely, despite the thought police,,, er,,, Human resources claims about diversity, inclusion, etc. All great propaganda.
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