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Old 05-17-05, 03:56 PM   #26
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My Scout troop has had some fun with commercials, when you recognize where they were filmed.

Many car commercials are filmed at Coyote Dry Lake outside of Barstow, CA. You've probably seen those cars speeding across the flat lake bed.

We cycled around the whole lake one year! Very weird. Lots of fun.
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Old 05-17-05, 05:16 PM   #27
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Incorrect.
They've been making cars for 102 years, not 97.



From ABOUT.COM:"Ford incorporated the Ford Motor Company in 1903, proclaiming, "I will build a car for the great multitude." In October 1908, he did so, offering the Model T for $950."


To me that's 97. But hey... you win
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Old 05-17-05, 05:30 PM   #28
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I have noticed ALOT of commercials for that new lincoln truck. I watched it so many times, but cant even remember the name of the truck! I love the commercials for "Poser Mobile" those crack me up.
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We are all open to suggestion, some more than others.

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Old 05-17-05, 11:00 PM   #30
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From ABOUT.COM:"Ford incorporated the Ford Motor Company in 1903, proclaiming, "I will build a car for the great multitude." In October 1908, he did so, offering the Model T for $950."


To me that's 97. But hey... you win
From www.ford.com:
Ford Motor Company entered the business world on June 16, 1903, when Henry Ford and 11 business associates signed the company's articles of incorporation. With $28,000 in cash, the pioneering industrialists gave birth to what was to become one of the world's largest corporations. Few companies are as closely identified with the history and development of industry and society throughout the 20th century as Ford Motor Company.
As with most great enterprises, Ford Motor Company's beginnings were modest. The company had anxious moments in its infancy. The earliest record of a shipment is July 20, 1903, approximately one month after incorporation, to a Detroit physician.


06/20/1903 to 05/18/2005 = one month shy of 102 years.
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Old 05-17-05, 11:29 PM   #31
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They did pretty good without TV commercials for the first 50 years of their existence then, eh?
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Old 05-17-05, 11:38 PM   #32
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We are all open to suggestion, some more than others.

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What's in your mind is what you'll most likely buy.

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I sense that there's some kind of subliminal message here, but I can't quite figure it out
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Old 05-18-05, 08:03 AM   #33
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forum*rider, next time I'm in San Diego I will leave $5 under the arch at Hepner Hall at SDSU.

I have no idea why I want to do this...
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Old 05-18-05, 08:07 AM   #34
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One of my favorite cartoonists is H.T.Webster. He was popular in the 30's and 40's (No, I'm not THAT old!).

I remember one cartoon where the young granddaughter is sitting on the grandfather's lap.

Grandfather: I didn't listen to the radio when I was young, they didn't have any.

Granddaughter: Then how did they sell soap?
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Old 05-18-05, 09:20 AM   #35
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I don't even have a TV. I find them annoying.
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Old 05-18-05, 09:38 AM   #36
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The US auto industry is hurting big time. When they're hurting they sell harder.
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Old 05-18-05, 12:48 PM   #37
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IMO, they'd be better off if they put their $$$s into better designs and higher quality construction of their vehicles, and not into advertising. A good product will sell itself.
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Old 05-18-05, 01:09 PM   #38
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IMO, they'd be better off if they put their $$$s into better designs and higher quality construction of their vehicles, and not into advertising. A good product will sell itself.
I think they need to do both. It's pretty obvious that the consumer mindset is heavily swayed by the car-culture that the auto-industry has promoted over the last 60 or so years. If we were to hold them somewhat accountable and expect them to make some kind of "ethical" consideration, then we should also expect them to spend some of their money on advertising the benefits of more economical, safer and better designs as well as promoting alternative fuels and alternative forms of transportation. Any industry group has a certain obligation to social engineering as well as product engineering.
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I think they need to do both.
Hypothetical question:

If the car companies did absolutely no advertising whatsoever, how would that influence the car purchasing public?



Most people seem to believe they need automobiles. I bet the same number of vehicles would be purchased, regardless of whether there was advertising or not.
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I saw an advert for some Dodge product on TV last night, they were showing the driver drag racing the vehicle up to and into a toll booth... Need I say "stupid and irresponsible"....?
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If the car companies did absolutely no advertising whatsoever, how would that influence the car purchasing public?



Most people seem to believe they need automobiles. I bet the same number of vehicles would be purchased, regardless of whether there was advertising or not.
I don't entirely agree. People will still drive but they might not purchase. The car companies are not going to continue or even start making vehicles that the consumers won't buy. Many consumers are skeptical or ignorant about alternative fuels, designs and transportation technology. If we were to assume that the car-culture will continue to be prevalent then we have to assume that people will still drive cars and if they don't see anything on the market they like then they'll probably continue driving their current cars. If they're not buying the new "better" cars then the car companies will chalk that up to a failure to market and barring better marketting advertisement, they'll pull the design and go back to what was selling. Ethical marketting and advertisement also includes education.
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If we were to assume that the car-culture will continue to be prevalent then we have to assume that people will still drive cars and if they don't see anything on the market they like then they'll probably continue driving their current cars. If they're not buying the new "better" cars then the car companies will chalk that up to a failure to market and barring better marketting advertisement, they'll pull the design and go back to what was selling.
Possibly. Or the auto companies will design the cars to be even more disposable than they are now. Make them wear faster & cost more to repair. The consumer will get nickle & dimed to death by repair costs, get fed up & buy a new car. That happens now.
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The cars being produced now are the best they've ever been. It wasn't many years ago when 100,000 miles was considered a-lot. Now 150,000 doesn't seem like much. The efficiency, emissions, comfort, and function have all continually improved as well.

The car designs are driven mostly by government regulation and legal liability. Only a little wiggle room after those constraints are satisfied.

IMHO the SUV phenomenom was a direct result of government regulation. Because of regulation the cost of the average car was greatly increased. This made the less regulated light truck class vehicle more affordable compared to the average car. The SUV was also an arena where the domestic manufacturers had an early advantage because of their existing base of light truck vehicles. Oh well, it's all more complex than that but again, IMHO, this is part of the explanation.
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