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Old 05-22-05, 10:08 PM   #1
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Neighbor robbed, too close for comfort!

I got home about 1 hour ago after coming back from dinner, no more then 5 minutes after I did, I got a knock on my door from a cop saying my neighbors door was kicked in, that sure as hell gave me a weird feeling inside, expesually considering I live in an apartment and my neighbors door is about 10 feet from mine, cop said the robber(s) didn't take anything really cause the alarm wen't off 35 seconds after it happen but still it's pretty bad what happen. I could have come home to stolen stuff or even worse, 2 dead or missing dogs. Anyway, on a lighter note, I'm going to buy a shotgun for protection
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Scary stuff. Glad they didn't manage to take anything.

About the shotgun, be careful of what ammunition you use. Since you live in an apartment there are people on 3 sides of you, and shot can go through walls.
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You can get some cool frangible ball 12 ga ammo from www.hi-vel.com I have it in my shortie Mossberg.
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Get some teeth!

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Dogs. ha!! The easiset security ever device to deactivate. I've never seen a dog turn it's nose up at choclate cake or raw meat.
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Dogs are still great deterents-thieves don't like the noise if there's an easier target.Anyway, didn't he already say he had a couple? Maybe why his neighbor got hit and not him?
The neighbor's alarm system worked for him, how about that?
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Dogs. ha!! The easiset security ever device to deactivate. I've never seen a dog turn it's nose up at choclate cake or raw meat.
Unfortunately, someone has already tested that theory and lost. All they left behind was their little bag of dog treats. He wouldn't eat them which is odd since it was his favorite kind. Dogs are smarter that people give credit...if they sense that you're bad, a treat isn't gonna save you. If somehow you survive the dog, you still have an alarm to deal with. It is at this point that you realize that your stomach, intestines, and part of your chest cavity are gone from massive gunshot wounds.
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Virtually all break-ins occur when the owner is not home, often in broad daylight, in plain view of neighbors (who think its just contractors).

The best thing you can do is to get to know your neighbors, keep an eye out for each other and note suspicious activities.

The shotgun is only useful in the very unlikely event you have a home invasion while you are in your house-- almost never happens, but the gun-peeps like to fantasize about it all the time.
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For under $100, you can make your door "kick proof", and lock and alarm your windows. The MAJORITY of people killed with guns purchased for "home security" are members of the homeowner's family, not crooks. The ratio of family members killed to crooks killed by "home protection" firearms is about ten to one in favor of family members.

I work with teen-agers with problems. When I ask teens who have been burglers WHY they targeted a particular home, often the answer is "Because I heard they own a gun...I was after their gun". When I ask them which homes they avoid, the answer is "People with dogs". Most crooks are very afraid of dogs. Even poodles. VERY afraid.

And, perhaps with good reason. The gentlest dog I have ever known became ferocious when an air conditioning repairman walked briskly in the direction of a baby that was sleeping on a rug in the living room. That dog just missed a rear-ectomy on that guy. The next time the air conditioner needed work, he claimed "I've retired".
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Multi-Lock. It's one of the best on the market. We had no thefts or break-ins after the management replaced every lock in the building (a 40 story building) with these very expensive, but very effective locks.

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I was thinking of making the door kick proof some how, what gave way on my neighbors door was the whole wood frame just ripped off, should I just head over to Home Depot, or Lowe's and see what they got?

I'm on the second floor, and there is no way you can get to any of the windows, they are all covered up pretty well with heavy tree overgroth, I don't think a theif would be that dumb to pull up a ladder to a window facing a very busy road anyway. But you never know these days, gah

I still think I'd feel much safer with a gun also, I was looking at Remington 870 Marine Magnum 12 GA, fairly cheap and has some collectors apeal also.
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I was looking at Remington 870 Marine Magnum 12 GA, fairly cheap and has some collectors apeal also.

Six hundred, twenty dollars, new!!! "Fairly cheap"

I got my Mossberg 500, used for $125. Bought a new 18 1/2" barrel and front & rear Zytel pistol grips fitted them to the shotgun and sold the take off parts on eBay which paid for the mod parts.

It looks similar to the one pictured below, except it has the forward pistol grip as well. Nice and short, more maneuverable than a big 'ol hockey stick



Even a new field grade Mossberg is only half the price of the Remington
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I was thinking of making the door kick proof some how, what gave way on my neighbors door was the whole wood frame just ripped off, should I just head over to Home Depot, or Lowe's and see what they got?

I'm on the second floor, and there is no way you can get to any of the windows, they are all covered up pretty well with heavy tree overgroth, I don't think a theif would be that dumb to pull up a ladder to a window facing a very busy road anyway. But you never know these days, gah

I still think I'd feel much safer with a gun also, I was looking at Remington 870 Marine Magnum 12 GA, fairly cheap and has some collectors apeal also.
Ok, so what happens when someone breaks down the door when you're not at home? How does a gun help then?

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P.S. Just get a solid oak door. You'd have to have steel toed boots and a high pain threshold to kick one of those in.

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Ok, so what happens when someone breaks down the door when you're not at home? How does a gun help then?

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And what would happen if someone breaks in and I'm unarmed?
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P.S. Just get a solid oak door. You'd have to have steel toed boots and a high pain threshold to kick one of those in.

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The door has nothing to do with it, they are very heavy and thick steel, it didn't even have a scratch on it, the whole frame just tore away from the impact. Multiple locks wouldnt' have done anything either.
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Then the door should have been installed better.

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Yeah, well, I don't ever expect much from these kinda things, it is an apartment after all. They arn't going to be built like a million dollar home.
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Carry insurance and just hope. I like dogs, too, though. Can't pet a gun.
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You can install a door so that it's secured safely. The apartment owner is probably hiring someone cheap who can't install properly. Even homes in the projects have better doors than what you've got, from the sounds of it.

My buddy works for the FBI. When they do a drug bust in the projects, they usually use the battering ram. He loves it. It takes a good few hard rams with a full crew of able bodied dudes to break a door down. He says it's his favorite part of being an FBI agent.

Better installation. If they can't hire someone, do it yourself. It's not rocket science.

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Six hundred, twenty dollars, new!!! "Fairly cheap"

I got my Mossberg 500, used for $125. Bought a new 18 1/2" barrel and front & rear Zytel pistol grips fitted them to the shotgun and sold the take off parts on eBay which paid for the mod parts.

It looks similar to the one pictured below, except it has the forward pistol grip as well. Nice and short, more maneuverable than a big 'ol hockey stick



Even a new field grade Mossberg is only half the price of the Remington

Lol I see you looked at the Remington website, the 870 Marine can be picked up brand new for around $350 from a local shop. I wouldn't buy it if it was over $600 thats a little overkill.
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Just got an apartment newsletter, stating there have been multiple break-ins in the area around late evening. Grrrr
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My dog is a border collie, dont really need a door bell when you ahve her. She barks a shiz load. But she would never bite ANYONE! Im serious even if you hit me she would just bark.

But still, tweek ya cant win against Koffee Brown Attourney at law.
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My dog is a border collie, dont really need a door bell when you ahve her. She barks a shiz load. But she would never bite ANYONE! Im serious even if you hit me she would just bark.

But still, tweek ya cant win against Koffee Brown Attourney at law.
I have 2 shelties, ones bark sounds like a big dog, but the other one is small, about 25lbs and has a little high pitched bark.
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I've actually had someone break into my house while I...yep just me was their. I thought about attacking him but I didn't know how big he was. So I did my best big dog imitation and it frickin' worked! That guy never runned that fast in his life I bet! What a gullible piece of crap!
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