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Old 05-23-05, 08:38 AM   #1
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Mac computer problem

iMac OS9

Harddrive doesn't boot or recognize with the Apple utility on the OS install CD, but I did put it in a Mac that takes multiple drives and it mounted.

What would cause a drive to act this way? Boot sectors damaged? Something else?

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What kind of Mac is it, which version of OS 9 (OS 9, OS 9.1, OS 9.2?) and is it using SCSI or IDE? If SCSI, is the ID number one that's already being used?

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Harddrive doesn't boot or recognize with the Apple utility on the OS install CD, but I did put it in a Mac that takes multiple drives and it mounted.
This is a little confusing. If the drive is mounted, then the OS does recognize it. The Apple Drive Utility (can't remember the name for the life of me) is supposed to be for specific brands. If you want something a little more powerful and useful, see if you can get FWB HardDisk Toolkit for OS 9.
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Sadly enough, it's been a while from my Mac support days. Anyways, a couple of ideas. First, if you can get it to mount with the other Mac - do a full backup NOW if you haven't done it already!

It could be a disk surface problem, a wiring problem (SCSI chain termination for example can be fuzzy sometimes), or a problem with configuring the drive (duplicate SCSI address; other cabling systems can have slave/master switches etc.) If it turns out to be the surface, you may have to low-level format and restore from backup and even that may be a short-term help or no help at all.

If this is supposed to be a boot disk in a system that has any significance at all (and it turns out to be a disk surface problem), I would probably replace the drive just to be sure.

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if you can get it to mount with the other Mac
Mmmmhuh huh huh huh huh huh. Huh huh huh huh.
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I'd try a PMU reset first of all.
Often takes care of weird "soft" hardware problems.
But your iMac may have the reset button in an awkward position.
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Sorry about that, did not realise it when posting.

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If it is a new mac running 9 (PM G4+) you can use the firewire option to back up the discs... but assuming it is not doing ^^^ may work well...

Witout knowing the model it is hard to tell.
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A problem with a mac? I thought there wasn't such a thing!

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Well, it says "iMac" in the first post, so that rules out anything but the original-looking model (the one in production up to the introduction of the LCD iMac).
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So the iMac will not recognize the drive when you utilize the Apple utility on the CD. Then you mounted the drive into a different Mac machine and it was recognized?

If that is the case, my guess would be a controller issue in the original iMac. The last SCSI drive on a Mac was pre-G3, so it is IDE I believe.
Any more info on this one Opie?
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First problem, its a mac. Your solution is to sell it and buy a PC.
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I'd try a PMU reset first of all.
Often takes care of weird "soft" hardware problems.
But your iMac may have the reset button in an awkward position.
Not sure where the PMU is.

I just backed the data up to another drive. I'll throw the original drive away and be done with it.

And I'm sure you're right about the button being in a weird spot on the iMac... what a POS design that was.

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OMG, that is soooo funny
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OMG, that is soooo funny
Hey, I resisted mentioning that you have to wear a turtleneck and drink a latte to be able to fix one of those things.
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Yeah, the first iMac models were really crappy.
If I remember correctly, such a simple thing as the serial number was hidden away behind a plastic lid at the bottom of the unit!
I used to work for Apple tech support, and we had to get the serial number from every machine people called about. It could take many minutes just to find the serial number...
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