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Old 06-02-05, 01:23 PM   #1
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The female in the photo is a convicted serial killer. Would anyone one this forum consider dating her? She's to be released in July I think. I couldn't sleep with her in the house. Google "Karla Homolka" for more info.
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Old 06-02-05, 01:45 PM   #2
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I think I remember this couple didn't they kill her sister??? Gross, I'm not a guy but I wouldn't want her in my house even if she is hot!!!!
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Man, 12 years for torturing and killing two teenaged girls? Who was the prosecutor that negotiated that plea bargain?
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Old 06-02-05, 02:45 PM   #4
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Just kidding... too scary (both looks and personality) for me. Sounds like she's a lesbian now, anyway.
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she's actually moving into my neighbourhood on her release.

judging from her m.o. -- she aided in the kidnap, **** and murder of three teenaged girls -- she's probably not much of a danger to men. snowy... you should worry.
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Old 06-02-05, 08:16 PM   #7
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Oh god...she used to live not too far away from me!
And by the way, if you wanted to date her read this:

"As reported by The Sun last spring, while at Joliette Homolka was involved in a lesbian relationship with convicted bank robber Lynda Veronneau, who is due to inherit almost $1 million from a family estate and has told relatives her blonde, 30-year-old girlfriend "Jessica" will live with her."
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Wow, sounds like it pays to live in jail, now she is going to be with an rich lesbian. Damn, I'm playing in the wrong field.
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One of those teenage girls was her sister. She got a light sentence for testifying against her boyfriend who was her accomplice. People do more time than that for manslaughter. A slow and torturous death would be far too good for this "woman." In general I am against the death penalty. In this case... Hopefully some other whacko will do what the state should have done in this case.

BTW I would much rather see someone executed for **** than murder. **** is always premeditated.

Compassion is one of the greatest attributes a person can have. This "woman" deserves none.
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well... she's still biologically a woman, with or without the quotation marks.

yes, the crown made a stupid deal with her that it probably didn't have to make, but prosecutors thought that they needed her testimony to nail paul bernardo. she pled guilty to manslaughter and was sentenced to 12 years. she served her time -- more, in fact, when you consider that the usual policy is to release prisoners after 1/3 of their sentences are served. like it or not, she has the right to her freedom now.

canada is governed by laws, not by our visceral disgust for specific criminals.

i doubt she's much of a threat today, since she had never committed a violent crime before she met bernardo, who had been a serial ****** for quite some time.
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well... she's still biologically a woman, with or without the quotation marks.

yes, the crown made a stupid deal with her that it probably didn't have to make, but prosecutors thought that they needed her testimony to nail paul bernardo. she pled guilty to manslaughter and was sentenced to 12 years. she served her time -- more, in fact, when you consider that the usual policy is to release prisoners after 1/3 of their sentences are served. like it or not, she has the right to her freedom now.

canada is governed by laws, not by our visceral disgust for specific criminals.

i doubt she's much of a threat today, since she had never committed a violent crime before she met bernardo, who had been a serial ****** for quite some time.
She is biologically female. She does not qualify to be called a woman or a human being.

If she isn't much of a threat, then you can let her live next door to you, the laws you are governed by will protect you. Laws are for society but often let individuals down. There are several little girls in Florida that could tell you that if they were still alive.

The recidivism rate of violent sexual offenders is higher than any type of criminal, barring drug addicts that are jailed repeatedly without treatment.

You strike a morally superior tone in your reply, have you ever come in contact with a violent sexual offender? I have in my professional life and I have no sympathy for any of them or their rights. If you sat face to face with these freaks then I don't think you would be so flippant.

BTW, there is no proven treatment for people that commit these crimes. Very few of them can learn to control their impulses because they are basically hard wired that way. She may not have commited a **** or murder until she met her boyfriend but she happily went along with it to the point that she victimized her little sister, a person she should have loved more than most anyone else.
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I went to http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_k..._1.html?sect=5 and read about it all. Scary business.....it boggles my mind to think someone could do that.

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alloy addict.... karla homolka is a human being. live with it. human beings are capable of all kinds of brutality. live with it.

it never ceases to amaze me how people are so naive as to believe that only monsters commit horrific crimes. they're always surprised when such a crime occurs. get over it. normal, ordinary human beings do absolutely incomprehensible things. dismissing people like homolka as "monsters" means shutting your eyes to the real depths of humanity.

secondly: canada is governed by laws. homlka has served her time under those laws and thus has earned the right to reenter society. we can't go back in time and re-write her sentence just because the reality of her release offends us. in a country of laws, people who commit even horrific crimes have rights. homolka has hers.

she would be welcomed to move into the house next to me. she will be the most-watched person in canada, and the police presence will be pretty heavy. besides, she has to vive somewhere.

i covered the publication ban on her trial as a journalist twelve years ago. i'm pretty well-informed on the case.
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you are a journalist? hmmmmm are you still a journalist?

Well it is a good thing Canada has laws and the rest of the world doesn't, eh? As I said, laws protect society, but rarely the individual.

I am sure she has been completely changed by her 12 years in prison. When she moves into your neighborhood you can invite her over for tea with your daughter/sister. The police will watch her 24 hours a day and make sure she isn't a bad girl again.

Of course she is an **** sapiens, that does not make her a human being. She served her time, sure, but that doesn't mean she is one iota different than the day she raped her little sister. Live with it. If you want to defend the poor woman who helped **** and murder, good for you. I'm glad you can live with it. People have choices to make, she made several choices none of which a caring, loving human being would make under any circumstances. Drugging and raping another person and then letting them die while you covered your crimes before calling an ambulance are not the acts of a monster?

I am a very forgiving person. I can find the good in most people. I can forgive people that steal, assault others, lie, etc. I have no sympathy for sexual predators. They are broken people. Live with it. Even chemical castration has not proven effective because these "human beings" aren't driven by sexual urges, but rather the desire to hurt, humiliate, control, and victimize people. A lot of sexual predators are victims themselves, but not all victims become victimizers. Live with it.

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yes.

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Well it is a good thing Canada has laws and the rest of the world doesn't, eh?
i did not say that.

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I am sure she has been completely changed by her 12 years in prison.
that's not the point. the point is that she served her time. she was convicted and punished. end of story. that's how the law works. whether she is a good person or a bad person, whether she has a good soul or a bad soul, is a question for theologians and philosophers and not for jurists.

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When she moves into your neighborhood you can invite her over for tea with your daughter/sister. The police will watch her 24 hours a day and make sure she isn't a bad girl again.
i did not say that i would want anything to do with her. i said that the limit of the law has been reached. [in fact, the court has imposed entirely sensible restrictions on her, within the law.]

to be just, laws must be consistent and above personal feelings of disgust. you can't just arbitrarily change them when you don't like the way things turned out.

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Of course she is an **** sapiens, that does not make her a human being.
forgive me if i am wrong, but you seem to have the incredibly naive notion that human beings are not capable of brutality. i never cease to be amazed at how some people seem to believe that only monsters can commit horrific crimes. as a result, they are always surprised when human beings do commit these crimes.

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She served her time, sure, but that doesn't mean she is one iota different than the day she raped her little sister.
like i said, this is irrelevant. she was not punished to change her or heal her. she was punished to remove her from society. the law is predicated on the notion that, if you violate the rules of society as enacted by the state, you will be deprived of the rights and privileges that society provides for a period determined by a duly constituted court acting on society's behalf. she was convicted; she was deprived of her freedom and privileges for a period determined to be appropriate by the court in 1993; having served that punishment, it's now over.

the crown could have appealed the sentence in 1993. it did not. she received due process. if you don't like the rules, you can change them. whether or not the sentence was appropriate [i don't personally think it was] is irrelevant -- that's the sentence she received. you can't arbitrarily change it because you don't like it.

i guess i don't know how the law works where you live, but in canada, it is above individual whims.

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If you want to defend the poor woman who helped **** and murder, good for you. I'm glad you can live with it. People have choices to make, she made several choices none of which a caring, loving human being would make under any circumstances. Drugging and raping another person and then letting them die while you covered your crimes before calling an ambulance are not the acts of a monster?
i do wish you had actually read my post. it would have made this so much easier.

i'm not defending karla homolka. i'm defending the idea of rule of law.

i do not have the gift of telepathy. i am not able to see the content of people's souls. neither can the law. the law does not deal with sin, or whether someone is a caring or loving human being. it deals solely with actions and society's limitations on these actions. people are not convicted for being evil, they are convicted for acting in ways that violate specific rules. i am sure there are a lot of evil people out there, who are neither caring nor loving, who are not in prison and who do not deserve to be in prison. if they act in a way that violates society's specific rules of behaviour, they should be punished.

karla homolka was punished for violating these rules. she was not convicted for being a bad person.

it works the other way as well. also in 1993, a saskatcjewan man named robert latimer murdered his severely disabled daughter tracy by carbon monoxide poisoning. it was clearly a mercy killing. latimer murdered his daughter because he loved her; she was so severely disabled that she was in constant pain, could not walk, talk or care for herself. latimer killed her to end her very great suffering.

but the murder -- and it was, in legal terms, a murder -- was an act that violated the rules of society. consequently, this good man [so he seems to be by most accounts] desrved to be punished. i'm not sure if he has been released. he was sentenced to 25 years, with a possibility of parole after 10.

when he has served his sentence and the court deems it appropriate for him to be released, latimer will be entitled to enjoy the full rights and privileges of a canadian citizen.

the law is not about good and evil. it is about actions.

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I am a very forgiving person. I can find the good in most people. I can forgive people that steal, assault others, lie, etc. I have no sympathy for sexual predators. They are broken people. Live with it. Even chemical castration has not proven effective because these "human beings" aren't driven by sexual urges, but rather the desire to hurt, humiliate, control, and victimize people. A lot of sexual predators are victims themselves, but not all victims become victimizers. Live with it.
i'm glad you are such a forgiving person. but the law has nothing at all to do with forgiveness.

under canadian law, there is a process to in which an offender -- like paul bernardo -- may be determined to be a "dangerous offender" and imprisoned indefinitely. the crown did not pursue such a proceeding against homolka. consequently, now that she has served her sentence, she is free [with restrictions] to return to society. an argument can be made that the crown botched the whole thing, but it's too late now, and that's just how it works.

i clearly lack your spiritual perfection and omniscience. i can't look into someone's soul and know exactly what they are thinking and feeling and i know that the law cannot, either. i do expect the law to protect me but i recognize that, in order for it to do that, it must extend the same protection to former convicts who have served their sentences, and a whole lot of people who i don't particularly like. the authority of the law is based on the idea of equal justice -- it must apply equally to all people.

sometimes the law does not work the way i would like it to, but i have to accept it because i know that the law is not about me.
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I am not even going to read your long post. You are a troll. You started this by commenting on my post instead of just posting your own opinion. I'm tired of chopping up the billy goat meat for you.

If you are a journalist you should really get the shift key fixed on your computer. Typing in all lower case is as pathetic as TYPING IN ALL CAPS.
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alloy addict... i write three or four stories a day for work. this is not work, so i can do what i damned well please.

i am not normally inclined to make ad-hominem statements, buit your superior, moralistic, holier-than-thou attitude is frankly offensive. you make self-righteous judgments about the "humanity" of others, and then you don't have the decency to read, let alone respond to, a reasoned reply.

your mind is not closed. it is locked-up tightly. you ooze the smug satisfaction of the self-righteously ignorant.
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alloy addict... i write three or four stories a day for work. this is not work, so i can do what i damned well please.

i am not normally inclined to make ad-hominem statements, buit your superior, moralistic, holier-than-thou attitude is frankly offensive. you make self-righteous judgments about the "humanity" of others, and then you don't have the decency to read, let alone respond to, a reasoned reply.

your mind is not closed. it is locked-up tightly. you ooze the smug satisfaction of the self-righteously ignorant.

I read your long post and agree with you fully. And may I add "well written". But evidenly your wasting your breath and your time.
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I read your long post and agree with you fully. And may I add "well written".
but poorly typed.

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secondly: canada is governed by laws. homlka has served her time under those laws and thus has earned the right to reenter society. we can't go back in time and re-write her sentence just because the reality of her release offends us. in a country of laws, people who commit even horrific crimes have rights. homolka has hers.
As you're probably aware by now, The Crown has applied under Section 810 of the Criminal Code of Canada to restrict Homolka's movements and associations. Remember, these restrictions are to be applied after Homolka has completed her entire 12 year custodial sentence.

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As you're probably aware by now, The Crown has applied under Section 810 of the Criminal Code of Canada to restrict Homolka's movements and associations. Remember, these restrictions are to be applied after Homolka has completed her entire 12 year custodial sentence.
indeed. and they're legal. i can accept that. in fact, they seem entirely sensible.

by objection was to alloy addict's suggestion that homolka deserved to be murdered, as the state "should have done."

as for where she's going to live... it might as well be my neighbourhood. she's going to have to live somewhere.
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The female in the photo is a convicted serial killer. Would anyone one this forum consider dating her? She's to be released in July I think. I couldn't sleep with her in the house. Google "Karla Homolka" for more info.
She looks like a slightly older Britney Spears, but w/out the personal trainer. BTW Jessica Simpson has an ugly face, yet tons of idiots worship both of those ugly, moronic, fake blondes. And Jennifer Anniston w/ that manly football player jawline, I can't believe it took Brad Pitt that long to dump her ugly arse --- he's prettier than her. There, I feel better. Give me Charlize Theron, Jessica Biel, Elizabeth Hurley or Nicole Kidman and that'll be the end of my rant.

Well, if the psycho in the above pic was guilty of killing the dork that she's riding, I may not think she's too bad --- he looks like he could use a good killing.
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