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Old 09-12-05, 09:12 AM   #1
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Leather boots with Gortex lining- Should I Sno-Seal them?

I'm buying a pair of leather boots with a Gortex lining for my wet and snowy winter commute. Will I mess up the Gortex lining if I Sno-Seal the leather? Sno-Seal claims that it is fine for Gortex lined boots, but I'd like an independent confirmation. Thanks.

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Goop it up. Do the outside only, if thats what you're asking. You need to be most concerned with the seams. Reapply the goop regularly. FYI the goretex lining will offer short-term benefits, at best. Particularly in footwear, its more hype than help.
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No, do not sno-seal them.
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Ask the boot maker.
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No, do not sno-seal them.
I second that.

You'll inhibit the breathability of the leather and render the teflon lining (gortex) useless.

Gortex is touted as a beathable and waterproof teflon material. It's pores are large enough for air molecules to pass but smaller than water molecules.

I'm working on my third pair of all leather Vasque boots with a gortex liner. I have never water proof treated them. I have walked in water below the upper cuff and I've never wetted out the inside.
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My favorite was an old chukka boot styled shoe from Kanga-Roo years ago. I have very cold sensitive feet not only did these shooes keep my feet warm they could do so soaking wet! Seriously, I could walk through six inches of water have them flood and within 60 seconds my feet were TOASTY again. I'd love to get another pair. Like all good things, they've gone away.
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I'm working on my third pair of all leather Vasque boots with a gortex liner. I have never water proof treated them. I have walked in water below the upper cuff and I've never wetted out the inside.
We have conflicting information then. I have a pair of Vasque Sundowner II boots that specifically said to treat the leather with a waterproofer on the 'care for' tags. They are technically waterproof with a Gore-tex liner, but the surface waterproofer protects the leather.
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Have you tried sealskins brand socks (maybe sealskinz)? Totally waterproof. I use the gloves and love them.
Doesn't keep your shoes dry but it will keep your feet dry.
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Bees wax solid covering on goretyex boot=bad.
Water proofing=ok

Now I mean the lather, not like a solid layer of beeswax. I havent waterproofed my boots, and I have stepped in many puiddles and havent had problems yet. Although Since my Kilimanjaro trip i havent cleaned them (bad move)
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We have conflicting information then. I have a pair of Vasque Sundowner II boots that specifically said to treat the leather with a waterproofer on the 'care for' tags. They are technically waterproof with a Gore-tex liner, but the surface waterproofer protects the leather.
You're right. We do have conflicting info. Here is what Vasque says:

VASQUE® HIKING BOOTS

Step 1: Clean mud and dirt off with warm water and a brush or rag.

Step 2: Use NaturSeal® Boot Cleaner and the included brush to scrub your boots to deep clean the leather. This will remove imbedded dirt, waxes and oils. Allow to dry thoroughly. Now the leather is ready for conditioning and waterproofing.

Step 3: Apply NaturSeal® Waterproofing and Leather Conditioner. Apply the liquid using the convenient dauber. Notice that the liquid soaks into the leather immediately, particularly if leather is old, worn or dry.

DO NOT HEAT!! Excessive heat will destroy the leather.

Step 4: Add a final cost of protection by spraying on NaturSeal® Leather and Fabric Guard. The convenient pump bottle makes it easy to apply an overall layer of protection that repels outside moisture.

For Suede and Nubuk Leathers in Lighter Colors Substitute NaturSeal® Conditioner with Aqua Seal® Suede & Nubuk


I've found that either applying a leather conditioner or doing nothing is best. That's because leather breathes. If you invested the extra coin for a pair of leather boots with a GoreTex liner then why muck up the breathability of leather and GoreTex with a water proofing application? I think it's just a marketing gimic to sell product with a boot purchase.

There you go. YMMV.
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Interesting. I've also worn through sundowners, but without goretex. I used some kind of waterproofing, though I don't recall the brand now. With regular reapplication they served me well, including holding out just-shy-of-ankle-deep water. I find the goretex liner to be the marketing gimic, not the waterproofing...
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If you invested the extra coin for a pair of leather boots with a GoreTex liner then why muck up the breathability of leather and GoreTex with a water proofing application? I think it's just a marketing gimic to sell product with a boot purchase.
I'm worried about the leather cracking from water and salt damage. The reason I bought the Gortex ones is that they were $40 cheaper than the ones without Gortex. I've always been against Gortex in shoes as the Gortex cannont be cleaned if it gets really dirty. Gortex in the 1980's needed to be relativly clean to breath. Perhaps Gortex has improved since the old days.
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Gortex in shoes as the Gortex cannont be cleaned if it gets really dirty. Gortex in the 1980's needed to be relativly clean to breath. Perhaps Gortex has improved since the old days.
Sorry, that makes no sense. Gortex is a very thin latex layer that is laminated between whatever materials makes up the product you're wearing.

Fill up the bathtub and give them a test. Send pics of yourself in the tub.

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