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Old 09-29-05, 11:28 AM   #1
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Computer Help????

I have a Microstar motherboard. the BIOS is locked up via password (which i do not have).

I've tried removing the batt and using the jumper with no luck.
anyone have any suggestions?

I can't install an OS and i'm pretty sure this is why. Plus I just want to be able to get in.
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Old 09-29-05, 11:42 AM   #2
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Your bios being locked will in almost no way that I can think of prevent you from installing an OS.

http://motherboards.mbarron.net/bios.html
http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/36/42/

Explore at your own risk.
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Old 09-29-05, 11:49 AM   #3
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Can you boot up?

I'm pretty sure I've seen free utils out there before that would allow you to run them to erase the BIOS password.
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Old 09-29-05, 12:22 PM   #4
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Can you boot up?

I'm pretty sure I've seen free utils out there before that would allow you to run them to erase the BIOS password.
Yeah it's called the reset jumper and the battery. That's what they are there for. Sounds like the OP needs to do it again and make sure what he's doing is correct.
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Yeah it's called the reset jumper and the battery. That's what they are there for. Sounds like the OP needs to do it again and make sure what he's doing is correct.
Yeah, I was scratching my head on that one too. Maybe the wrong jumper was moved?

If that still doesn't work, trying removing the battery for at least 20 or 30 seconds before replacing it.
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last time I did something with the battery out it said to cycle the power switch WHILE UNPLUGGED & battery out.
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i can boot from the CD but i think something's up with the boot sequence in the BIOS. I could be wrong

i tried the batt and jumper and it keeps asking for a password when i start up again.

i'll try some of the things you guys (and girls) have suggested
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Old 09-29-05, 09:46 PM   #8
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OK here's how to do the battery trick right:

1) disconnect the power supply from the motherboard
2) remove battery completely from holder
3) wait 5 mins (this is overkill, but overkill is good policy sometimes)
4) put everything back
5) power on.

Keep in mind if it's actually stored in FlashROM, it won't clear from the battery trick...in which case, you need a BIOS password ******* or remover.
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Old 09-30-05, 05:15 AM   #9
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i can boot from the CD but i think something's up with the boot sequence in the BIOS. I could be wrong

i tried the batt and jumper and it keeps asking for a password when i start up again.

i'll try some of the things you guys (and girls) have suggested
thanks

Wait! If your BIOS is password protected isn't the only time you need to provide the password when you go to access the BIOS to make changes?

OP is'nt stating that... His words: "it keeps asking for a password when i start up again." This leads be to believe that it is an OS/User level password that's blocking this.

Thoughts?
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Agreed, sounds like a DOS or OS password, not BIOS, BIOS only displays when you enter BIOS... easy to circumvent (AMI Bios password changer For Example).

You can rid bypass the OS password by using a 98 startup disc asnd running windows Password cracking software...
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OP said booting from a CD works. A little more info would be nice, maybe like when & how the new OS install fails, or even what OS is currently installed & what OS is planned for new install.

Could be some software like Disk Password Protection installed. It includes a feature for boot protection that requires the entry a password to boot the computer. Is this a 2nd hand computer? Who would have installed software such as this? Perhaps they would have the password handy?


Not sure how that could be by-passed. Maybe booting up a CD based Linux distro & then reformatting the hard drive from there. Who knows?

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Agreed, sounds like a DOS or OS password, not BIOS, BIOS only displays when you enter BIOS... easy to circumvent (AMI Bios password changer For Example).

You can rid bypass the OS password by using a 98 startup disc asnd running windows Password cracking software...
Yeah, I'm with Stacey & VW on this one. A BIOS password only pops up when you want to access the BIOS to make changes, like defaut boot-devices, RAM/PCI speeds, etc.

Sounds like it's an OS password on the log-on screen. With 16-bit Windows, it's easy, just boot up with a floppy and go into to the C:\WINDOWS folder and delete all the .PWL files. With 32-bit Windows, you can create a LINUX boot-floppy that can read the NTFS filesystem and it runs a little script that deletes the Admin password from the registry files.
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so here's my thought:

the BIOS was set for Password to enter BIOS SETUP
which was locked into the CMOS

I believe there is something in the Boot sequence in the BIOS that is not allowing me to install my OS

so i have to either find a way to rests the CMOS chip (obviously not myself)
or
get a new board

i highly doubt that Phoenix set a default password in the CMOS from the factory

thanks again guys for your insight

any more thoughts?
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Ahh...I thought he had a BIOS boot-up password selected.

OS-level password is easier...just format the drive, and reinstall windows. Easiest way to do this is by booting of the CD-rom, or by using a boot floppy alongside your windows CD if your system is an older type that cannot boot directly off CD-Rom.
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so here's my thought:

the BIOS was set for Password to enter BIOS SETUP
which was locked into the CMOS

I believe there is something in the Boot sequence in the BIOS that is not allowing me to install my OS

so i have to either find a way to rests the CMOS chip (obviously not myself)
or get a new board
Hmm... so why would you need to get INTO the BIOS? If you're able to boot from a CD, why not just put in the OS's boot-CD, and it should autorun the installer program?
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Old 10-01-05, 06:16 AM   #16
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Hmm... so why would you need to get INTO the BIOS? If you're able to boot from a CD, why not just put in the OS's boot-CD, and it should autorun the installer program?
i had to hook up a floppy, but i got it to work

i'm still locked out of the BIOS though ho well it's just a little side project thing anyway.

thanks for the help peoples!
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