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Old 10-17-05, 03:43 PM   #1
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Nascrap !!!

Anyone catch on CNN the news that NASCAR drivers are as highly-trained as astronauts??? Yeah right... that's why they have to unionize to get decent wages while 10,000 equally capable teenagers are knocking on their doors willing to do their jobs for free... heh, heh... . The NASTICAR marketing machine has gone even more mainstream...
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that's why we should all be watching ChampCar instead of the taxi cab racing NASCAR is shoving in people's faces.
seriously, i think people actually get smarter when watching ChampCar and F1.
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Old 10-17-05, 05:09 PM   #3
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Anyone catch on CNN the news that NASCAR drivers are as highly-trained as astronauts??? Yeah right... that's why they have to unionize to get decent wages while 10,000 equally capable teenagers are knocking on their doors willing to do their jobs for free... heh, heh... . The NASTICAR marketing machine has gone even more mainstream...
The pay isn't bad though.
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that's why we should all be watching ChampCar instead of the taxi cab racing NASCAR is shoving in people's faces.
seriously, i think people actually get smarter when watching ChampCar and F1.

At least those good ol' NASCAR boys have enough sense to cover their tires with fenders.
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haha...
i'll give 'em that much. they definitely give themselves a lot of room for mistakes

that's why we have the open-wheel addage: "turn right and rub this!"
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Old 10-17-05, 05:59 PM   #6
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I think they should have a circular track in nascar with steering lock. Once you find the right line, just mash the gas and lock the steering then sit back and enjoy a DVD for the next 2 hours.
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Old 10-17-05, 06:01 PM   #7
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isn't that how they already do it?
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Old 10-17-05, 06:06 PM   #8
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Isn't orbiting the track about the same as orbiting the earth?
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Old 10-17-05, 06:08 PM   #9
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Almost, tracks aren't round enough... yet.
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bah..
i remember seeing somewhere that a "properly set-up" stock car can run alot of those bankings full stomp and the driver doesn't have to have more than a thumb on the wheel.
i guess that's where you have some similarity with how a space shuttle pilot works.

so i guess a good comparison to an open-wheel road/street course driver would be an F16 pilot in a straight-up dogfight.
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The article forgets to mention that most of the time, the space shuttle's on auto pilot!
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Old 10-17-05, 06:28 PM   #12
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my point exactly
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Old 10-17-05, 06:32 PM   #13
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Not to defend NASCAR or anything, but my beef with F1 can be summed up as follows:

Remember that race last year when one car PASSED another? That was wicked.
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NASCAR's about as interesting as watching paint dry. I'd rather watch Rallye Racing. Driving on closed road courses through snow, rain, mud, gravel, dirt, pavement, cobblestone, etc. with the chance of flipping your car over on the hood and having the spectators push your car back on it's wheels and continuing to race is much more interesting than watching corporate ads fly by at 200 mph on a closed loop.

As for NASCAR drivers being as highly trained as astronauts, I believe they are. Afterall, we did send chimps into space...
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Old 10-17-05, 06:48 PM   #15
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WRC is great, but would be much more interesting if they had a way to televise it live. just doesn't carry as much excitement when you already know who won.

and i resent the paint drying remark! i do that all the time
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I'd rather watch Rallye Racing. Driving on closed road courses through snow, rain, mud, gravel, dirt, pavement, cobblestone, etc. with the chance of flipping your car over
I'm with you there, yoss. I remember seeing a wacked-out driver (a Canadian, too!) driving around a corner that crested a hill, and the crazy man was flying this car 20' above the bushes on the inside of the curve, and landing on the road again. They had the in-car camera, and I nearly swallowed my tongue until he landed it.

If it has to be done with a motor, THAT is my kind of racing.
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WRC's my favorite type of racing cuz unlike Nascar, the WRC cars actually LOOK like the models they're based on and use the same engine blocks. Where else but WRC can you watch the drivers get pulled over by the cops b/c the navigator is hanging out the driver's side window to keep the car balanced on three wheels cuz one of the wheels broke?

I agree, it's too bad you can't watch it in North America live. Speed channel gives it short shrift cuz they're owned by Nascar and it's all taped. And they don't even cover SCCA rallye racing at all.
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I'm with you there, yoss. I remember seeing a wacked-out driver (a Canadian, too!) driving around a corner that crested a hill, and the crazy man was flying this car 20' above the bushes on the inside of the curve, and landing on the road again. They had the in-car camera, and I nearly swallowed my tongue until he landed it.

If it has to be done with a motor, THAT is my kind of racing.
A wacked-out Canadian you say. Isn't that redundant? I believe there's a Canadian or two doing well in SCCA. I guess driving in all that snow and slush has it's benefits.
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Champ car?

Are you guys watching re-run of few years ago?
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Highly trained?

Turn Left
Turn Left
Turn Left
Turn Left
WATCH OUT FOR THE WALL!!!
Turn Left
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Champ car?

Are you guys watching re-run of few years ago?
huh?
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Champ car?

Are you guys watching re-run of few years ago?
Champ cars do both oval and road tracks.
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Champ cars do both oval and road tracks.
not for long...
milwaukee is all but dead, and vegas will be a street course within two years. maybe after the IRL finally shrivels up dies as well, they'll start going back to certain ovals.
have you seen the new champcar formula for 2007? it's gonna be unreal, especially with all the defectors coming home.
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huh?
It has been out of business for a while?
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nope. going strong and getting stronger. they just announced the new formula for 2007. who do you think runs the long beach grand prix every year?

www.champcarworldseries.com
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