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Old 12-09-05, 06:20 PM   #1
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*sigh* I think i have to get a car in '06

Ive always been telling myself I dont need or want a car during highschool. BUt I've reached the point now where i feel like it wont be all that practical to go without....
This year i can get away with it, but not for my senior year.
It stinks because between that and the router which i am making, i will have little money left to build a road bike which i have always wanted .
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Old 12-09-05, 06:22 PM   #2
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i went though highschool without a car... no wait... i still dont have one
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Old 12-09-05, 06:25 PM   #3
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Yea but you see. Its really a job thats the kicker...
I have to get a school year job next year. This summer i rode to work always, sometimes 20 miles each way. Thats great....in summer. In winter, I just cant be doing with NH winters.
Plus I like to go to Harding metals which is only 14 miles away and can be cycled no problem, but the return trip carrying 50 pounds of aluminum on your back is not so fun.
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Old 12-09-05, 06:30 PM   #4
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hehehe i see your point. 50 pounds ouch
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Old 12-10-05, 09:14 AM   #5
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Yea but you see. Its really a job thats the kicker...
I have to get a school year job next year. This summer i rode to work always, sometimes 20 miles each way. Thats great....in summer. In winter, I just cant be doing with NH winters.
Plus I like to go to Harding metals which is only 14 miles away and can be cycled no problem, but the return trip carrying 50 pounds of aluminum on your back is not so fun.
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Seriously, I'd definitely go with a used car. Something cheap so that you'll have low or nonexistent payments and can carry less expensive insurance. Sounds like a truck might work better for you due to hauling capacity as long as you don't drive it much.
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Old 12-10-05, 09:45 AM   #6
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Yea thats true, a smallish truck. I will have to talk to folks i know. I got a friend who bought an 88 TOyota pickup for 500 bucks. The body is in crappy condition, and the car has zero amenities. But.... hes towed some big loads with it, and he gets 30 miles to the gallon. But it has no heat, no AC, no power steering, completely manual shifting, no radio, no cassette player, nothing but an engine and a body!
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Old 12-10-05, 09:52 AM   #7
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dont do it! i got my first truck last year and my milage is down 45% from 03-04
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Old 12-10-05, 10:47 AM   #8
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I'm in highschool too with no car. My parents are forcing me to get my driver's liscense though to run them errands. My thing against cars is fuel costs, pollution, dangers involved, my anxiety problem, less time outdoors ect. I think its so much better with a bike. I live in a city though. So I don't have to go more then 15 miles any direction. Heck I just failed my driver's written test.

But the parents got me this year. They won't let me get a ski pass this year unless I get the written test passed!!! Its quite a mean trap. But at least I'll be able to drive up to the mountain foothills and take a bus up to snowboard everyday after school now. Plus the grocery store is easier to get to without freezing and carrying everything on the handle bars.

I don't know. Get it if it won't take away from your biking time and save your body from catching a cold. At least get a heater in your car. Good luck.
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Old 12-10-05, 01:00 PM   #9
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Old 12-10-05, 01:34 PM   #10
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I think the majority of the car-free lifestyle people don't live in the North Eastern states. Right now, I don't have a choice but have a car. Once Spring rolls around and things warm up and melt away, I'll be taking my bike to work weather-permitting. The job I had before this (which I've mentioned in another thread) I could not bike there without putting myself in severe danger daily. My current job is bkeable, my dad did it most of last year. It's only 10 miles away, and we have to be there before 6am, which usually means leave by 5am (~45 min at avg 14mph, +traffic stops, +5-10min before 6am [6:01 = Late])

Anywho, 3 days ago we had our first big snowfall, about 6in of accumulation. Right now most of the side streets still have not been plowed, and if they have, they were plowed very poorly. Also, it seems most drivers have never driven in snow before and don't realize that they can't drive the same as on a hot, dry, summer day.

So, there is my rant about why its not really practical to go car-free in some states.

Now on yo your problem.

You can find a cheap car. My first car was a 1985 Plymouth Relient. I got it for free from my grandpa, but if he were to have sold it instead, he probably wouldn't have gotten more than $500. I drove that for 2 years with very few problems (biggest was that the Alternator died, $100 repair).
My second car kinda fell into my lap, too. A friend of the family's daughter got pregnant. She drove a 1990 Plymouth Laser, a small 2-seater similar to the Ford Probe. I say two-seater because even though it had a back seat, She couldn't put a carseat back there without moving the passanger seat all the way up. He parents bought her a new car and she sold the Laser to me for $300. I happened to be able to sell the Relient for $350 (Ha! Go me!)

I drove the Laser for just shy of 2 years with no problems until last last month or two of it's life. The engine ripped itself apart on the highway while I had a list of cars that I wanted to check out to upgrade. I was able to sell the Laser for $50 to someone that needed it for parts to rebuild a 94 Mitsubishi Eclipse (practically identical car).

I haggled a bit with the dealer and drove away from the lot with a 2001 Chrysler Sebring for $6990, after tax/title/liscene fees... about $1500 less that Sticker+TTL. So, at a 4.74% Interest Rate Amortized over 5 years... I pay roughly $131/mo (+$120/mo for insurance).

All of that little anecdote is just to say: It IS possible to get cars at a low price. You don't need a 2006 Model just to have a car. If the thought goes through your head that a certain car will "impress my friends"... immediately think "is the price worth impressing them?".

I know a lot of people that have wasted a lot of money when they bought their cars because their friends all thought it was a 'cool' car. Rather than getting something half the price and not as snazzy, they bought the more expensive one and now are often stuck driving everywhere because they have the nicest car (and of course the friends don't offer gas money).

Anyways, I'm done ranting, hopefully you can find something useful in all of this post.
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Old 12-10-05, 02:06 PM   #11
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Yea thats true, a smallish truck. I will have to talk to folks i know. I got a friend who bought an 88 TOyota pickup for 500 bucks. The body is in crappy condition, and the car has zero amenities. But.... hes towed some big loads with it, and he gets 30 miles to the gallon. But it has no heat, no AC, no power steering, completely manual shifting, no radio, no cassette player, nothing but an engine and a body!
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I haggled a bit with the dealer and drove away from the lot with a 2001 Chrysler Sebring for $6990, after tax/title/liscene fees... about $1500 less that Sticker+TTL. So, at a 4.74% Interest Rate Amortized over 5 years... I pay roughly $131/mo (+$120/mo for insurance).
Wow you paid 7k for a 2001 Chrysler Sebring. OUCH!

I just hope you are lucky enough to get rid of it before it starts giving you truoble :-/
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I'm in highschool too with no car. My parents are forcing me to get my driver's liscense though to run them errands. My thing against cars is fuel costs, pollution, dangers involved, my anxiety problem, less time outdoors ect. I think its so much better with a bike. I live in a city though. So I don't have to go more then 15 miles any direction. Heck I just failed my driver's written test.

But the parents got me this year. They won't let me get a ski pass this year unless I get the written test passed!!! Its quite a mean trap. But at least I'll be able to drive up to the mountain foothills and take a bus up to snowboard everyday after school now. Plus the grocery store is easier to get to without freezing and carrying everything on the handle bars.

I don't know. Get it if it won't take away from your biking time and save your body from catching a cold. At least get a heater in your car. Good luck.
This reminded me of being stationed in South Korea. Yes, yes, I know it's stretch, but bear with me. I managed to go almost my whole tour without getting a military drivers license, thankfully. My NCOIC finally forced the issue toward the end, but I worked in a support command and didn't really need one. I wasn't anyone's driver or courier so I never had to actually get behind the wheel, either. Worst traffic I've ever seen in my entire life! 6 lanes of traffic on a 3-lane road, plus mopeds and bicycles carrying 10 cases of beer, chickens, pigs, etc. on the back, plus dead squid(and who-knows-what-else) on the roadway, plus pedestrians. The Autobahn caused me less anxiety at 160mph, lemme tell ya. Whew, okay, then-got a little worked up there...um, pc2, I still think you should get a truck....
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Old 12-10-05, 07:42 PM   #14
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Yeah. I'm scared to get my skills test done because I have such crappy highway on-ramp skills. Everything else is fine though. I enjoy mountain switchbacks actually. People are forced to be careful up there but down on the highway it seems people have forgotten the rules. This state has a reputation of bad highway drivers. So anxiety suuucks.
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