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Old 12-10-05, 12:39 PM   #1
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My plan for free fuel

Here is my plan: When I graduate, I am going to sell my piece of crap truck that I have had since High School. I am going to find myself a diesel powered Volkswagen with lower miles. Then, for $795, I will buy myself a grease car kit from these guys. While I am waiting for it to get installed, I will talk to the one thing that my town has pleanty of, restraunts, for a proposal to hual away their waste oil for free. It is a win-win deal. I get free fuel, they get for free something that they pay to have removed. Plus, the fuel doesn't hurt the environment, and instead of paying for fuel at some huge megaplex gas station, I get it for free from friendly local restruants.

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Old 12-10-05, 01:29 PM   #2
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From my reading of that, it seems to still require diesel fuel for start-up and shutdown...so while it replaces most of the fuel consumption, some is still required for operation of the vehicle
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Old 12-10-05, 01:55 PM   #3
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Yes, a true waste vegatable oil system does require diesel to start and shutdown. You can make bio-diesel, however, out of WVO and not require any diesel to run the system. It takes a still and some chemicals (you may need to get a permit from your town for the hazmat), but works pretty good. From what I've heard - I live in military housing so doubt I could get permission to build a bio-still - up to 50% veggie oil mixed with diesel doesn't give any loss of mileage. Above that you pay a mileage (and power) penalty, but at ~.70/gal I suppose you can live with it as long as you're not towing anything.

Eventually I want to stet up a bio brewing system for my truck.
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Old 12-10-05, 02:04 PM   #4
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I have a new hatred for VW. Most that i see have a funky ass smell, are giving off extermely bad exhaust, which in San Antonio is rare, or rude as ****.
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have you seen those bumper stickers "My Jetta's betta than your Jetta" ? Goes with most Jetta drivers' attitude too
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Old 12-10-05, 02:40 PM   #6
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have you seen those bumper stickers "My Jetta's betta than your Jetta" ? Goes with most Jetta drivers' attitude too
Yeah. I've had a lot of particularly close encounters with numerous jettas. If i was close to singling out a specific brand of people for being ruder to cyclists in SAn Antonio I'd have to say thats close to the top of the list.

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Old 12-10-05, 02:47 PM   #7
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That's the way to go, trekkie!!
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Old 12-10-05, 03:10 PM   #8
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I worked at a junkyard, and when we scrapped the car's gas tank, we would take the gas and fill our tanks. Not recommended for cars you care about!
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Old 12-10-05, 05:20 PM   #9
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I worked at a junkyard, and when we scrapped the car's gas tank, we would take the gas and fill our tanks. Not recommended for cars you care about!
Not out of my car you didn't. When it got totaled about 2 months ago, I siphoned the gas out of the tank and poored it into the rental I drove for a week.
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Cool! I actually saw this on Dirty Jobs on The Discovery Channel last week. I'm planning on getting a truck in a year or so. Sounds like a good project to undertake.
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I can't understand why you don't just drive off w/o paying..
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Old 12-10-05, 09:45 PM   #12
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I can't understand why you don't just drive off w/o paying..
Hey I was going to say that!
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Old 12-10-05, 10:27 PM   #13
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why not just go for free meals at the bum shelter and use only your bike?
I was expecting that kind of idea from the thread title. True Bio-fuel.
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Old 12-11-05, 10:42 AM   #14
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Bio-Diesel is about 3 bucks a gallon. As for the "funky-ass smell", the exhaust smells like potato chips. And, I think that a full tank of diesel, used only on startup and shutdown would last for AT LEAST two months. Figure that to be about 25-30 bucks for a full tank, that ain't bad. I was actually thinking about it more, and I was thinking a Jeep Liberty, so I could haul my bikes easier.
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Here is my plan: When I graduate,
I'd shoot for a good paying job to make buying gas more affordable.
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Old 12-11-05, 10:57 AM   #16
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Duh

edit: I have already got the ball rolling on that. This plan is for when I can afford it.

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Until it was smashed I used to have a civic. Now I have a crown victoria. My gas cost's have more than doubled.

I almost got an old Mercede's turbo diesel, but diesels are too much of a headache to start in the winter if you ask me. My boss has a diesel F350, and he has all kinds of problems starting that thing. He's always got a can of starting either, he always has to plug it in when he parks it, and he often will just let it run all day. If these french fry grease burners use diesel to start up, I'm sure they would have the same problems. Thats why I wouldn't want one.
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Old 12-11-05, 04:43 PM   #18
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Until it was smashed I used to have a civic. Now I have a crown victoria. My gas cost's have more than doubled.

I almost got an old Mercede's turbo diesel, but diesels are too much of a headache to start in the winter if you ask me. My boss has a diesel F350, and he has all kinds of problems starting that thing. He's always got a can of starting either, he always has to plug it in when he parks it, and he often will just let it run all day. If these french fry grease burners use diesel to start up, I'm sure they would have the same problems. Thats why I wouldn't want one.
Uhhhh... starting ether for a diesel? I certainly hope not. That's a big no-no for a diesel!! Not even sure where he'd spray it since there's no carb in a diesel (I don't know, I guess maybe old ones have something like that - but new ones are all injection). Also, letting it run all day in the cold weather does more harm than good. In really cold weather the engine won't be able to maintain it's temp and fuel will leak by the pistons into the oil. Very bad.

I plug mine in when it's really cold so I have heat in a reasonable amount of time, but I've started it unplugged below zero.
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