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Old 12-29-05, 03:13 AM   #1
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need a new DVD player

nothin' fancy, I guess progressive scan (lol, I'm not even sure why) and some other cool stuff

I would like it to be $150 at MOST, probably 100-150$

I have a toshiba that I thought was good, but it tanked recently and now it skips a lot. I got a lens cleaner disk but it didn't really help

guy at blockbuster said toshiba dvd player isn't good (their laptops and desktops [when they made them] are good, so I figured their other stuff was legit )

I don't have enough time to research a bunch, or I'm too lazy to--I just wanna go out tonight and buy one

I want to get a fancy tv in the next 6 months, so I need those capabilities as well (probably a rear projection tv, widescreen screen, no plasma or lcd stuff)

okay--bring it on home ent folks


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check these out


the first two are the ones I'm primarily interested in


http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1118839101053

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1089890284340

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1109233696293

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1077630479848
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I can't believe I'm going to say this....but I agree with MERTON.

When I bought my 1st DVD player, I actually bought two at once. One for the little TV in my bedroom and one for the main TV. I did all the research and got what I thought to be the best DVD player at the time for my main TV. I got an el-cheapo $60 or $70 one for the little TV in the bedroom.

Guess what? I couldn't tell a freakin' difference between the $250 one and the cheapo. In fact....there were a few cool features the cheapo one had that weren't on the "good one".

I think DVD players are kind of like CD players now. They are all pretty much the same....it's old technology now. You used to have to see what formats they supported, but they pretty much all support all standard formats now.
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Old 12-29-05, 04:07 AM   #4
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I saw one for $29 at walmart.
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If you're going with a bigger display, an obvious requirement for the player will be a digital out. The larger display will also accentuate any weaknesses in you system so take that into consideration also. For your intended upgrades I'd say you price range is a little low. That said, there are a few good (and lots of crappy) players in your price range, but I can't advise at the moment as I have not been keeping up for the past year or so. At the Roadie forum there are two AV forum mods (KeithA and the guy with the red Trek) who could probably steer you to a good player. FWIW I have a Pioneer 59AVI and an iScan HD+.

I'd suggest that you also look into getting region-free capability, as it will open up a whole new world of film. Just make sure that the player will do PAL to NTSC conversion properly.
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My only advice, when buying a budget DVD player, is to stay away from carousels. More to break, eh? The Sony on your list is fine, Panasonic makes several prog. scan models in your price range that are good, also.
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Old 12-29-05, 07:37 AM   #7
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I'd suggest that you also look into getting region-free capability, as it will open up a whole new world of film. Just make sure that the player will do PAL to NTSC conversion properly.
Excellent advice.
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http://reviews.cnet.com/Pioneer_DV_5...1419429-2.html

I have the previous generation, the 578a and love it. It gets along wonderfully well with the HiDef TV. You can still get the 578 on ebay for about $100.
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http://reviews.cnet.com/Pioneer_DV_5...1419429-2.html

I have the previous generation, the 578a and love it. It gets along wonderfully well with the HiDef TV. You can still get the 578 on ebay for about $100.
I was formerly using a 578a for my region-free player (had it modded). It uses the same chip as the Cambridge but the latter has better build quality and is region-free out-of-the-box. If I was in Zig's shoes, I'd get the Cam.
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You should think of all electronics as disposable. No matter how expensive it is. I have almost all Sony stuff. No problems with the TV's. However, if I get more than a couple years out of the components then I'm lucky. On the good side Sony is relatively cheap and has decent features. I personally like the carousel since I have to share the DVD player with the rest of the family.
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I was formerly using a 578a for my region-free player (had it modded). It uses the same chip as the Cambridge but the latter has better build quality and is region-free out-of-the-box. If I was in Zig's shoes, I'd get the Cam.
Yeah, I like Cambridge. It is outside the budget he mentioned.
Who modded your player? Was the improvement in the sound worth the $$?
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Old 12-29-05, 08:35 AM   #13
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Do you want DTS,SACD,DVD-A,HDCD? A Yamaha C750 was $299 but they might have come down but they play just about every disc known to man and its a multi-disc player. Go on some of the audio forums classifieds as alot have gotten new toys and are selling there last years new toy.
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Yeah, I like Cambridge. It is outside the budget he mentioned.
Who modded your player? Was the improvement in the sound worth the $$?

It was modded for region-free play by JVB Digital, not for audio. I've heard of a remote hack, but decided to go with a hardware solution.

I can't even listen to music on my 59AVi because my audio requirements are stratospheric.
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Old 12-29-05, 09:27 AM   #15
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I've had 3 Toshiba DVD players. They all died. For some reason there was a freakish flaw in the power supply that made the PS go bad everytime i threw the power braker in the house panel. I kept getting exchanges but every time i had to go and shut off power to that circuit to change a light fixture, etc, than my DVD player fried.

Anyway, any DVD player will work if you are just hooking it to a regular old 4:3 TV. If you are hooking it to an HDTV or 16:9 than you might want to consider one with HDMI output. All other outputs including component, s-video, and composite are all analog. So the signal goes digital>analog>back to digital for some TV's.

Also if you have a home theater setup you will want to make sure that the digital audio out matches your receiver's digital in. In other words if you receiver has coax only than you need a coax output on the DVD player etc.


I've attached Consumer Reports Ratings. At least partial. I have 6 DVD players including one in the van. One thing to note on the cheap DVD players is that they don't have an "auto off" feature. The drive spins the entire time that the unit is on. Better players shut off after no activity. This preserves the life of the DVD player.

Also the cheaper ones run down your battery in your car because they are spinning forever, if you forget to shut them down.
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It was modded for region-free play by JVB Digital, not for audio. I've heard of a remote hack, but decided to go with a hardware solution.

I can't even listen to music on my 59AVi because my audio requirements are stratospheric.
Sounds great, if you don't mind my asking, what do you use for a cd player?
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I bought a $19 DVD player at Krogers just to see if such a thing works. It sorta does. Adequate for replaying rental DVD's.

But, if you want the best, you can't go wrong with Panasonic. For simple playback, just buy the cheapest Panasonic you can find. Most models have a 12 month labor warranty, compared to the 90 day industry standard. And, for under $200, you can get a Panasonic DVD recorder. In the "one hour" mode, the resulting DVD's are as sharp as the original TV program. The "two hour" mode is almost as sharp as the original program.

So, you are too tired to watch the Rose Bowl? Just let your Panasonic put it on DVD for you.
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Okay, any comments on this one? thanks







Sony Progressive-Scan DVD Player with HD Upconversion
Model: DVPNS70H


Enjoy your movies on a whole new level of clarity through your high-definition TV with this HD upscaling DVD player. Listen to music and view your pictures too, all with stunning visuals and sound.

* Stumped over which features to choose? Our DVD Player Buying Guide can help.

* 720/1080i video output gives you an HDTV-compliant picture with roughly twice the resolution of progressive-scan DVD players through HDMI interface

* Progressive-scan video output maximizes the picture quality when used with a digital TV or monitor


Product Features

Plays DVD, DVD-RW (Video & VR mode), DVD-R, DVD+R/+RW, CD-R/RW, MP3 and JPEG formats

Precision Drive 3 system corrects errors on flawed or warped discs quickly and accurately for more reliable playback of damaged discs

Precision Cinema Progressive technology detects image changes at the base pixel level resulting in images much truer to the original and free from motion artifacts; 3-2 reverse conversion for precise reproduction of film-based sources

Dolby Digital and DTS 5.1-channel compatible; optical and coaxial digital outputs for connection to your surround sound home theater system or television; TV virtual surround with 5 surround modes for simulated surround sound from a stereo source

HDMI output provides an uncompressed all-digital audio/video link for the highest-quality connection and supports copy-protected HD broadcast content

108MHz/12-bit video digital-to-analog (D/A) conversion produces greater color purity, detail and resolution; 192kHz/24-bit stereo digital-to-analog (D/A) conversion and 96kHz/24-bit 5.1 digital-to-analog (D/A) conversion produces more lifelike audio

A/V sync aligns the audio track to match the video through TVs with audio buffer or delay

Advanced SmoothScan and SmoothSlow modes, instant replay and search, title and chapter viewer, fast and slow play with audio, custom picture mode, picture navigation, background graphics, video equalizer, 40-disc resume, and DVD/CD text

Inputs: 1 HDMI audio/video

Outputs: 1 composite, 1 component, 1 S-video, 1 analog audio, 1 coaxial digital audio, 1 optical digital video

Custom parental control on up to 40 discs; child lock on tray

Multibrand remote included


Product Details

Product Height 2-1/6"

Product Width 17"

Disc Capacity 1

Playback Formats DVD, DVD-RW (Video & VR mode), DVD-R, DVD+RW, DVD+R, CD-R, CD-RW, MP3, JPEG

Progressive Scan Yes

Simulated Surround Yes

Optical Digital Audio Outputs 1

Coaxial Digital Audio Outputs 1

Composite Video Outputs 1

Audio Outputs 1

S-Video Outputs 1

Component Video Outputs 1

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Looks fine but you still haven't told us what you plan to do with it? Are you hooking it to a 13" 4:3 TV or to something better. You are paying for HDMI out as well as HD conversion. Do you need those things?
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Sounds great, if you don't mind my asking, what do you use for a cd player?

I had a 47 Labs Flatfish transport and their Progression DAC (non-upsampling/digital-filterless). I got it a year old in perfect condition for 1/2 price. The amp was a simple Fi X 2A3 SET, powering vintage dual-concentric Tannoys. Its all gone now, dismantled and sold a year ago. I'm jonesing to listen my music, and am planning another system sometime next year.

Sorry for the TC.

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I'd go for a yamaha changer myself. In my experience, Yamaha's gear in general is a better overall value in terms of features, and performance.

Right now, I'm using a Pioneer DVD changer...not progressive scan, but doesn't matter since I don't have an HDTV.
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Secrets DVD Benchmark

Even if there was a HQ changer (is there? doubt it) I have no use for one. My viewing habits are too whimsical, as I can barely decide what to watch till 15 sec. before I pop it in. I guess that's why I keep about a 80 to a 100 new unwatched DVDs on hand. Better to have the technology put into player PQ than convenience.

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