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Old 01-05-06, 12:36 AM   #1
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Networking my home PC's...need help!?

I am considering networking our 2 computers here at home since we will be getting Broadband up and running before the end of the month!

I really have no idea about how to network, I just want to be able to network the internet and printers and I know i need a router although I'm not too sure if I want a wireless one or just a wired one?

I think a wireless would be good if we wanted to move the computer into another room at a later date, then we wouldn't have to move ports in the wall although speed through the wireless probalby isn't as good since there are 2 -3 blocking walls (not brick just interior walls) between where the router would go and the second computer. As the 'crow flies', the computer is about 20 - 30m from where the router would be.

I need help deciding on a wireless router or a wired router (I dont have any laptops yet), and thinking ahead if I decide to get a laptop in the futur. What types can you recommened? What set-up could I do? (i have no idea about it all). What equipment etc do i need?


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Its pretty simple, you usually get a modem from the internet provider, plug that into the router, then get wireless cards for your computers. The router will broadcast a signal, and you set the comp up with the wireless card program to pick up the signal.

Then you may want to enable the WEP so others won't have access to your network. I've set up a few wireless networks and like Linksys, the WEP is really easy to set up with their program.

So if you want to so wireless, you'll need to buy a router and wireless cards for each comp.. If you're just doing a wired LAN, then just a router and a whole lot of network cable. And just so you know, if you have the router right next to one of your comps, you can skip the wireless card and just plug it in to the back of the router.
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I plan on having the router next to the main computer. I'm just wondering whether to get a wireless router (which will also have 'wired' ports), or a cheaper wired router? What is the main speed difference between having a wireless connection, if it were going through 3 interior walls about 20m - 30m away?
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Get wireless, makes laptop use around the house really easy. The slower 11mbps wireless is dog slow for transferring files between computers (about 1/10th the speed of wired), but web-browsing's fine. Even the faster 54mbps wireless still no comparison to 100mbit wired ethernet.
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The broadband will only be 512kbps, but we are planning on possibly moving up to the 1500ADSL, and later even ADSL2. I guess the 11mbp/s would still be fine for internet, and we dont really need it for transfering files...although would the printing speed be affected? (11mbps wireless?)
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Printing will be fine. Go wireless, definitely. Running wires gets messy and is a hassle. For transferring files, you could also use a USB drive or stick between machines.
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Should the WireLess routers come with ports to also have the option to link it up with the blue cable if i decide i dont want wireless?

What about secrutiy of Wireless? Also price difference betweek non-wireless and wireless router?

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All wireless routers I've seen come with at least 4 additional ports for wired networking.

Security-wise, I'd implement it just for peace of mind. It's not that hard to set up, but can be a bit tricky at first. Linksys, Netgear and D-Link all have decent documentation and fairly easy setup.

There's no longer much difference in price. You can get decent wireless routers from $60-$100. Wired ones go for maybe $20 less, I think.
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Hmm ok, so can I do this:

Net > Broadband Modem (supplied by ISP) > Wireless Router > 1. a short wired connection the main computer (which will be next to the router)...2. a wireless connection to the other computer in the other room.

^ I assume that would be the set up??

Also if I go wireless to the other computer, what do I need on to put on the computer so it can receive a wireless signal?

What do I need to install (software and hardware) on the wireless network computer, and on the wired network computer?
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That looks about right.

On the other computer, you can install a wireless PCI card or connect a wireless USB adapter. The drivers for either device gets installed on this computer. The device would then automatically detect your wireless network.

How you connect to the wireless network depends on the security options you choose on the wireless router (during setup).
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Oh yeh I know those USB ones, they're not too expensive, quite cheap!

What do you recommened, the PCI card or the adapter? Would the adaptor though permanently display that annoying USB symbol in the clock toolbar? Although I guess I could then easily threaten to confescate the internet "you be good or I pull out the adaptor".

What about the wired computer? What hardware do you need for that?

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I'd go with the USB one, since you can transfer it easily to another computer. The USB tray symbol goes away after the device gets recognized, so no worries.

The wired computer just needs a 10/100 PCI network card, or the 10/100 port that's usually integrated with most newer computers.
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Ok, well we signed up for ADSL (I think its only 512mbps, but we'll see how it goes if we need it faster just upgrade and pay $20 extra a month!). It should be activated this weekend hopefully!

We had the option of a free modem OR a wireless modem (at a slightly cheaper cost) (4 port / 13 wireless i think) so we got that, it would save us having to buy a router aswell. So thats up and running, we took the network card that isn't wireless out of the computer on the other side of the room, put it in this computer that will be close to the modem/router and ran the ethernet wire into it.

We then bought a wireless network card. We had the option of USB, but the USB was more expensive, it didn't have an antenna for better reception, and we dont plan on moving it from that computer since we only have 2 comps in our house! So network card it was!

The router/modem is a D-Link DSL-G604T, its 54Mbps, which is fine for Adsl hopefuly! Suprisingly the connection of the wireless to the other comp is good! Its hovering around 70% - 80% (which is still apparently 54mbps), and the router is not elevated and its runs through 2 - 3 walls about 20m away so i'm glad we wont have too many hassels there! For sercurity i enabled WEP...

And this is where I have a quesetion!

Should i have WEP or WAP enabled? What is the main differnce between the two?

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WPA is the good stuff, or significantly better than WEP at any rate. Hopefully that will be purely a theoretical advantage, since if you had any super-geek neighbors running wireless-cracking programs to break your WEP, they would probably already have their own broadband anyway
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Yeah, but you can crack your neighbor's wireless and tap into another channel for additional bandwidth!
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On the wired vs. wireless front, what kinds of security risks does it add to go wireless? Seems to me like for a home network, wired makes the most sense because you only have to defend one point to outside attack - the modem. If you go wireless, both your network and each computer (each wireless one anyway) are exposed to the outside world. Seems like its adding to the security maintenance required.
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I can set up WPA but it looks confusing...and the computer at the other end dosn't have an option for WPA? (its running XP and all, i think its the D-Link AirPlus wireless modem card program that sets it up for you that dosn't have the option of WPA).

Oh and I have a 60 year old man on one side of me, about a 55year old on the other side which i dont suspect they are super hacking geeks, although there is always my 'over the fence' neighbour who looks at me funny. Maybe he's planning something...hmm.
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