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blue_neon 01-05-06 05:53 PM

Well, my computer only has about 30gb of space, and its currently partitioned over 3 drives (C, E, F). I'm not worried about using the 30gb of space, but what I am worried about is that my C-Drive is only paritioned for 4gb (:eek: ), and its now under 1gb free space (940mb)!

Especially with all these Windows Updates i'm doing (thanks MechBgon ;)), I would like to increase the space to maybe 3gb free?

Now I am wondering if that is possiblefor ME to parition off some space from the other drives (E & F) onto the C Drive? So is it possible? to take off some space from the 'E' drive and put in on c drive by me, an amatur ...without erasing any memory ? :o

thanks! :)

sunninho 01-05-06 06:06 PM

You have to use a program like Partition Magic, and I'd actually reclaim another 6GB for C, leaving you with 20GB for E, or I'd make C 30GB and add a 120GB HD (internally or USB) for E and F.

blue_neon 01-05-06 06:10 PM

I have 26gb, 13gb free on 'E', 4gb on 'F' and 0.9gb on 'C'. Will having more space on C drive improve performence or speed?

Also with the partitioning will any files/folders be wiped? How do I get Partition Magic?

:)

InfamousG 01-05-06 06:16 PM

Before making partitions... back up anything that you consider "Mission Critical" or that you don't have installation disks for.

School, Work, Personal, Music, Pictures, etc... back them up to CD or DVD. Although, as sunninho suggested, PartitionMagic is a great program and I've used it successfully, there is always a risk of data loss when forcing changes in the data structure.

I was going to suggest going 8GB for C, 22GB for E.

C is really only for Windows itself (which is about 1GB including the standard "page file") and other bare-bones operations as well as standard installations or installations where you cannot make changes to directory. The extra 2GB in E will likely prove useful if you plan to keep your data segregated.

I guess the best question to ask here is: Why do you want multiple partitions in the first place?

InfamousG 01-05-06 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue_neon
Will having more space on C drive improve performence or speed?

This is really dependant on what's called a page file that I mentioned in my first post. You can improve the performance of your machine (sometimes dramatically, usually very slightly) by adjusting the size of the page file. Basically, it's like your processor using your hard drive like a table of contents for the programs accessing your RAM. A properly sized page file will boost the performance of your RAM. Having too large of a page file will cause just plain wasted space on your hard drive. Too small, while it will save space, it will drop performance.

The extra space on C without adjustments to the page file should not give any noticable difference in performance since the partition is really a logical adjustment and not a seperate hard drive.

blue_neon 01-05-06 06:24 PM

Well I like to keep C simple, C is for windows and updates and anything like that. NO programs are installed on C (besides microsoft), NO saved word files/songs or anything are on C, C has been left for 3 years or more with nothing else then whats needed to go on it. I have not had 1 computer crash, or any problems at all. We have had 3 drives partitioned off since we got the computer 4 years ago (its still going :)), E, F and C. I install programs to E, and save files/music whatever on F. C is strictly Windows and Microsoft, all temporary internet files etc. are on E drive. Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird profiles have all been moved to E drive so i'm basically happy with the set up I currently have.

All I want is to move some of the space on 'E', to 'F' and 'C' drives.

A back up question....how do I do it problaby? Do I just burn copies of the drive onto CD? And then if eveything gets erased how do I put it back on? Surely not 'copy paste' from the CD drive? I must install it probalby right? How do I backup programs?

:)

blue_neon 01-05-06 06:26 PM

I dont really know if I want to partition it myself or just let someone else do it who has more experience. I am very worried about losing files, especially on the C Drive. 6 months ago the E drive was wiped during a De-Frag (i think i stopped it half way unaware), so the last thing i need is for everything to dissapear! :(

sunninho 01-05-06 06:52 PM

You won't lose files using Partition Magic, but it's always good to backup your documents to CD, USB stick or another HD. You can get a copy of Partition Magic for $20 on Ebay.

blue_neon 01-05-06 07:14 PM

I'm downloading a free trial of it now off Soft 32, i'll let you know when its done.. (dialup)

DannoXYZ 01-05-06 07:24 PM

C-drive partition usually is the least critical since you can always re-install Windows from CD and download the updates. I usually put apps on the D-drive and all my data on E. So backup all your data that you've created like documents and databases. Personally, I wouldn't change a thing on your system. The amount of space on C is more than enough to do any future updates to Windows and unless you have a need for a huge swap-file, I'd turn off VM altogether if you have 1gb or more of memory..

catatonic 01-05-06 08:20 PM

Yes, partition Magic is a must-have piece of software. No doubt about it, better believe it, it even slices dices and deep fries kittens. (ok, I'm kidding about the kittens..stop hurting me!)

Pretty much the only reason I see partitioning off a drive as useful is for either problematic programs that might require being installed in a drive root for better performance, or for use as a swapfile partition (for windows only do this if you plan on making a 3-4GB swap...windows gets very cranky if it cannot expand the swapfile due to drive space issues).

Some programs still require a swapfile for reasons beyond me, so I would keep the silly thing for a while.

phantomcow2 01-05-06 08:22 PM

Its a good idea to have C for windows only. It saved me once.
I had to reinstall windows one day, and did not lose any data. Because i simply had it rewrite over C. Nothing was changed, what a save :)

blue_neon 01-05-06 08:23 PM

Well the Drives are already partitioned so i'm not making new ones, or closing ones, its staying how it is, but its the storage i want to share around a bit more evenly.

Partition Magic is downloaded. What is the probability for me to lose data with it? And how long does it all take?

:)

blue_neon 01-05-06 08:23 PM

Yep phantomcow2 thats exactly how i've got it set up! I also feel a bit edgy with everything being on the one drive!!!

phantomcow2 01-05-06 08:24 PM

Does not take too long. YOu select the changes, and restart. Then it does the real process, might take 20 minutes.
I've run partition magic on many computers, never lost a byte of data

phantomcow2 01-05-06 08:25 PM

Yea i was running 2 Hard Drives once. Then linux came, and i had a pain in the rear of a time to get the western digital formatted and said screw it. THat drive was so loud compared to the maxtor I use now anyways.

blue_neon 01-05-06 08:31 PM

Hmm, installed Parition Magic, reading through 'readme' file and came across this :(

"
- PartitionMagic does not support Windows NT Server or
Windows 2000 Servers."

I'm running Windows 200 :(...does this mean it wont work? Is there anything that will run on 2000?

:)

catatonic 01-05-06 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phantomcow2
Its a good idea to have C for windows only. It saved me once.
I had to reinstall windows one day, and did not lose any data. Because i simply had it rewrite over C. Nothing was changed, what a save :)

That's why I keep a laptop and a IDE->usb adpater handy.

I just plug the adaptor to the drive, whiel still in the case, and hook it to the laptop. From there I move all important data into a "backup (date)" folder, delete everything else, then hook it back up to the PC, and reinstall windows".

I found I never use paritions as thoroughly as I used to, so I just altered my data recovery methods to revolve around my own laziness.

shoerhino 01-05-06 09:12 PM

I like using partitions. It seems easier to organize and backup data when needed to me. I like to use C: for windows and programs, d for personal files, photos and downloads, e: for music, F: for videos. If I know that I've made some significant additions to my music collection, I can run a backup of just that drive.

Everyone has a strategy that works. To me, it doesn't make sense to separate windows from its programs because it would be hard to restore one without the other. For example, if windows is C: and programs are D:, you couldn't just restore to an old version of C: without restoring the programs anyway so why separate them?

Anyway, I think that the specs of partition magic 8 say that it supports Windows 2000. What version were you looking at?

ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/englis...anuals/PM8.PDF

jfmckenna 01-06-06 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue_neon
Hmm, installed Parition Magic, reading through 'readme' file and came across this :(

"
- PartitionMagic does not support Windows NT Server or
Windows 2000 Servers."

I'm running Windows 200 :(...does this mean it wont work? Is there anything that will run on 2000?

:)

Are you running 2000 server or just 2000?

Make sure you defrag your partitions before running Partition Magic and if you decide to not back up files then you are taking a risk.

Another program that I have used sucessfully in the past is called qtparted.

blue_neon 01-06-06 05:29 PM

I'm just running Windows 2000 on one home PC. I'm confused with all the server stuff, its just a home addition of 2000....

Should It still work then?

:):)

DannoXYZ 01-06-06 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue_neon
I'm just running Windows 2000 on one home PC. I'm confused with all the server stuff, its just a home addition of 2000....

Should It still work then?

:):)

It should be fine, it'll tell if you it's not compatible for some reason. Personally, I would make the boot-floppies and run them instead of the windows apps. That way, you don't have to have anything installed on your system. Takes 2 floppies, one does the boot with a minimal DOS shell. Then the other has the PQMAGIC app that does all the work. That's how the Windows app works anyway, it sets up the DOS-based PQMAGIC program and reboots. On the reboot, the minimal DOS shell is loaded the PQMAGIC goes to work.

I would still backup all your data just in case. You might have a power-outage or something catastrophic in the middle of the partition re-sizing operation and you'd end up losing both your partitions that were being re-sized. :eek:


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