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    Cycling less dangerous than living in general, help me find this statistic

    I think I saw a chart or a link to a chart on Bikeforums that listed the number of deaths per 100,000 incidents for a bunch of different activities, swimming, reading, etc. It was neat, because facially, the statistics showed you were less likely to die while cycling than just being alive in general. And, yes, I know this is bogus; many factors, blah, blah blah, cyclists don't ride when they're dying of old age, blah, blah, blah, cyclists die in skydiving accidents too, blah blah blah, etc. However, thought it was funny and wanted to share it with someone. Please Help!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArizonaAdam
    I think I saw a chart or a link to a chart on Bikeforums that listed the number of deaths per 100,000 incidents for a bunch of different activities, swimming, reading, etc. It was neat, because facially, the statistics showed you were less likely to die while cycling than just being alive in general. And, yes, I know this is bogus; many factors, blah, blah blah, cyclists don't ride when they're dying of old age, blah, blah, blah, cyclists die in skydiving accidents too, blah blah blah, etc. However, thought it was funny and wanted to share it with someone. Please Help!
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    What is the big deal? We are all going to die sooner or later.

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    Ken Kifer (1945-2003) compiled a wonderful resource on bicycle safety and comparison to other activities at: http://www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/health/risks.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdrianB
    Ken Kifer (1945-2003) compiled a wonderful resource on bicycle safety and comparison to other activities at: http://www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/health/risks.htm

    That's the on, thanks a bunch, the chart I was talking about is a little less than half way down the page. May Ken rest in peace, a truly sad irony.
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    Fatalities per Million Exposure Hours
    Skydiving 128.71 Snowmobiling .88
    General Flying 15.58 Motoring .47
    Motorcycling 8.80 Water skiing .28
    Scuba Diving 1.98 Bicycling .26
    Living 1.53 Airline Flying .15
    Swimming 1.07 Hunting .08
    Data compiled by Failure Analysis Associates, Inc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArizonaAdam
    That's the on, thanks a bunch, the chart I was talking about is a little less than half way down the page. May Ken rest in peace, a truly sad irony.
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    Fatalities per Million Exposure Hours
    Skydiving 128.71 Snowmobiling .88
    General Flying 15.58 Motoring .47
    Motorcycling 8.80 Water skiing .28
    Scuba Diving 1.98 Bicycling .26
    Living 1.53 Airline Flying .15
    Swimming 1.07 Hunting .08
    Data compiled by Failure Analysis Associates, Inc.
    The statistics don't necessarily make cycling seem like a safer activity...

    Lets say, we've got a 10 mile commute. In the car, the trip is made at an average of 45mph. On the bike, the trip is made at an average of 17mph.

    10mi/17mph=.58x60=35 minute commute

    10mi/45mph=.22x60=13 minute commute

    Deaths per exposure hour - cycling .26 driving .47

    10 mile cycling commute risk @ 17mph .58x.26=.15
    10 mile driving commute risk @ 45mph .22x.47=.10

    Therefore, cycling on this particular commute is 33% more dangerous than driving.

    Just shows to go ya - statistics can say whatever you want them to say

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

    Just shows to go ya - statistics can say whatever you want them to say
    Yeah, i know, hence my initial disclaimer (blah, blah, blah, etc., in original post). It's just funny, that's all.

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    Cycling can be pretty dangerous if you get hit by a car, or wreck. Otherwise it is pretty safe.

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    Umm... how can you be less likely to die while cycling than less likely to die just being alive - assuming you are alive when you are cycling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmike
    Umm... how can you be less likely to die while cycling than less likely to die just being alive - assuming you are alive when you are cycling?
    Yeah, that doesn't make sense. Because from a set-theory point of view, cycling has to be encompassed within the larger category of living. So if you draw venn diagrams, cycling is a small subset of a larger circle of living...

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    Damn people, the statistic is a total load of crap, living is just included as a baseline, it probably gives the other stats more credibility, but there is no way you could actually compare it to anything. IT'S JUST FUNNY. I doubt many people who die of old age do so while cycling, etc.
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