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    Open Office vs Microsoft Office

    Cost not a factor, which is the superior product?
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    I've always had some kind of funky formatting problem when I write a document in Open Office and open it up in Microsoft Office. Never the other way 'round. Other than that, I've never really noticed a difference in functionality.

    On the other hand, I can get a lot more done on Microsoft Office. But that's more a function of the user than the program.

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    That depends upon who you ask.
    If you ask any open source or linux zealot he will usually tell you that if you're using MS Office or Outlook that you are (from the words of Mozilla Developers who have said this to me) "a ****ing idiot"

    Personally , I've not useds Star or Open Office. My dad has used all 3 and while he dislikes Microsoft's online activation it is his opinion that they are still in left field. He relates them to Lotus which I purchased for him 2 years back. He does not use either and has bought a office 2k3 license

    In the enterprise business few can live without MS Office, especially the Outlook factor.

    Personnally, Being a developer as I am I have invested over a decade in programming with 3/4 of it in Microsoft technologies. Microsoft Office lets me develop plugins, automate and a whole bunch of other geeky stuff in any COM compatible language.

    Using MS Office, I am one of those users who does not have Microsoft office crash on me, can figure out how to disable word changes, how to change autocorrect, can figure out how to do the billions of things that for some reason stump and annoy computer illiterate people the world over. So for me MS Office is better in virtually every aspect and there is no office suite that can compare to it

    Code wise Cnet posted an article a few months back when the "new and imrpoved open office came out" and it seemed to show that Open Office took longer to do common tasks. I do not hold much stock in this as I've not tried them and benchmarks for people who believe in benchmarks. I'm not one of them.
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    Depends on the use. For regular day to day stuff, its ok. But for collaborative working and just plain interactive compatibility with other applications (sharepoint, project server, communication server etc) office is unmatched.

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    I am asking this to all users, no particular reason other than to provoke conversation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maelstrom
    Depends on the use. For regular day to day stuff, its ok. But for collaborative working and just plain interactive compatibility with other applications (sharepoint, project server, communication server etc) office is unmatched.
    Which office?
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    I like office 2003. 2000 was pretty solid but 2003 and in the future Office Live, really take "sharing" to a new level. Its proven quite effective in a large wan office environment.

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    Superior, cost not a factor, MS Office. Broader user base, compatible with assorted apps.

    If you want to skip the $400 per license, (Or about 1/2 a million $$ for 1,000 computers)
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    It definitely depends on how far you want to take it. For me I need to write letters and documents as well as some spread sheets and even a slide show here and there so open office works great. It's hard to say the way you worded the question where money is no object. If money was no object I would probably go with MS because I have been trained on it and everyone in my organization except for a few die hard WP users use it. Otherwise for me at home I use Openoffice because of the cost and because I like the idea behind it.

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    OpenOffice doesn't have MS Publisher support, last I checked.

    I would use OpenOffice if I were desparate for a suite, and could afford neither $400 for Office Pro, nor $80 for Microsoft Works Suite (which contains full-version Microsoft Word). At this point, I'm going to wait for the next-generation Office (Office 12) and then buy that, rather than get 2003 and then be kicking myself for not waiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mechBgon
    OpenOffice doesn't have MS Publisher support, last I checked.

    I would use OpenOffice if I were desparate for a suite, and could afford neither $400 for Office Pro, nor $80 for Microsoft Works Suite (which contains full-version Microsoft Word). At this point, I'm going to wait for the next-generation Office (Office 12) and then buy that, rather than get 2003 and then be kicking myself for not waiting.
    I wouldn't have bothered with office 2003 if I didn't have an open licence that should cover both vista and office 12. It might even potentially cover live if they don't mess with their CAL system. Besides 2000 doesn't have 1/2 the features when in combination with project and sharepoint server. 2003 offers a signifigant improvement on that front

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    To throw a cat in a dog show - why would anyone want to use a word processor? Phantomcow - you want to go into the sciences. Scientists, mathematicians and engineers use LaTeX. On a Windoze machine you can use Miktex (freeware) as an engine and WinEdt (unexpiring shareware - worth paying for though), on a MAC, use gwTeX and TeXShop, and on Linux, use TeX live and Kile (or e-macs). The editors are all plain TeX ascii files, and you can read and process one you created any time in the past. I can't read any of my WordStar, Starwriter, Volkswriter, Wordstar 2000, Wordperfect, or older Word files anymore. Now if you think Word is absolutely dominant, so were WordStar and WordPerfect.

    Once you start using LaTex (what you see is what you want), rather than a Word Processor (what you see is what you get), you'll use it more and more. So you have to have Word - use Latex2RTF. If you are writing technical documents, sooner or later Word will eat them - that has caused many people to use LaTeX for everything.

    The initial learning curve may be steep, but its worth it. My students claim that I've written LaTeX code on the blackboard - it's probably true - but they understood it becuase they use it too.

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    Once you start using LaTex (what you see is what you want), rather than a Word Processor (what you see is what you get), you'll use it more and more. So you have to have Word - use Latex2RTF. If you are writing technical documents, sooner or later Word will eat them - that has caused many people to use LaTeX for everything.

    These would be the people i was referring to in my prior post. The people who strangely have problems I've never had in over a decade + of using all types of word editors and 6+ years of using Microsoft Office.
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    Maybe I should just render all my documents in 3D using trueSpace *gets out the ol' ELSA 3D-stereo shutterglasses*

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasGuy

    These would be the people i was referring to in my prior post. The people who strangely have problems I've never had in over a decade + of using all types of word editors and 6+ years of using Microsoft Office.
    Depends what you want to do - having worked on just about every machine from the PDP/8 on, I can turn off all the unwanted stuff in Word too - the trouble is I want to be able to go back to a ten year old document and be able to edit it, try it if you have one. The last time I needed to reuse an old document, it went through multiple translations, and the file I could read still needed a lot of work to fix. But when you talk about having trouble - I find that the same people have trouble with any systems. You clearly have no problems with Word - actually I don't either; it just won't do what I want in many cases - so it's simpler to use LaTeX for everything. Horses for Courses.

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    There's somethings else besides MS Office? Did not know that.

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    Haven't tried open office yet (I'm out of hard drive space...I know, my geek card has been revoked, don't rub it in), but I've been told that Calc (their Excel equivalent) is relatively limited in what it can accomplish and suffers in performance for large files due their method of data markup. It's seems like the perfect suite for basic home users who don't need to spend $150 for the most basic version of Office, but it has some work to do before it can beat Microsoft on features in a business environment.
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    The'res Lotus but
    People that claim that ghosts chew up their documents, or that they can't open up documents from 5-8 years ago have never used some of these things

    I watched somebody trying to insert a table into a lotus word document .
    It was not even funny watching the convolutedness behind it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iamlucky13
    Haven't tried open office yet (I'm out of hard drive space...I know, my geek card has been revoked, don't rub it in), but I've been told that Calc (their Excel equivalent) is relatively limited in what it can accomplish and suffers in performance for large files due their method of data markup. It's seems like the perfect suite for basic home users who don't need to spend $150 for the most basic version of Office, but it has some work to do before it can beat Microsoft on features in a business environment.
    Or useability imho. If my dad gets frustrated or is incapable of doing something that he wants with a piece of software aimed at normal and advanced normal users then that means that for the most part the software has a very good chance at requireing to be sent back to the drawing board. My dad has been working with computers since the 60's and 70's and today plays around with software ranging from spider solitaire to Blender 3D to MS Office to VS.NET to Matlab (a piece of software that even I know nothing of how to use).
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