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Old 02-11-06, 09:29 PM   #1
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Old 02-11-06, 09:38 PM   #2
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The Power of One is a good boxing book.
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Old 02-11-06, 10:35 PM   #3
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If you don't have it, HBO has boxing on a lot of saturdays. They often show high profile PPV fights from the week before, so you don't have to pay for em.
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Old 02-12-06, 06:08 AM   #4
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Keep your hands up.
Move.
Try not to get hit.

Those are the basics. The last one is easier said than done.
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Stomp on their toe & When you get a clear shot use your 2 first knuckles combining waiste & plant them straight into the eye ball or the rear of the joint of jaw.
Always remember to be polite & say "Goodnight"

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Old 02-13-06, 12:36 AM   #6
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anyone play Fight Night Round 3 for Xbox 360? I hear it's Dee Bomb. I only have a lowly PS2, but I want to get it. Fight Night 2004 was my favorite playstation game. The music was annoying and the commenting was limited, but the gameplay and challenge was great fun.
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My theory is screw boxing. Why induce brain damage as a sport while doing little to become a superior fighter? Boxing prohibits you from using more effective techniques than punching, like groin grabs, eye gouges, and any type of kicking. Actually learning how to fight is much smarter than doing boxing. Karate Sucks, Kung Fu and Kick Boxing are good, but a properly taught self defence class is best. They teach what works, and not a bunch of tradition bound Form crap.

Before I get flamed, no, I wouldn't want to fight a pro boxer, but if a boxer and a martial artist have the same amount of experience, I'll take the martial artist over the boxer any day. I did Karate for 2 years, Kung Foo for almost 5 years, and 2 semesters of an extremely good self defence class taught at a local community college. Sorry if I am being offensive to boxers or Karate lovers, but I am just speaking from experience, and I would certainly be open to opposing viewpoints.
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#1 rule in all of boxing...don't let Mick have a razor blade.

#2 rule...don't throw Mick down, or Rocky will pulverize you.

#3 rule...drinking a glass full of raw eggs may work for Rocky, but it ain't gonna help you none.
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Sorry if I am being offensive to boxers or Karate lovers, but I am just speaking from experience, and I would certainly be open to opposing viewpoints.
I've been studying Kyokushinkai Karate and it sounds like you took Community College Karate.
Full points for Martial over boxer.

Hands up not too close to your face, shin to thigh strikes and your opponent won't be able to stand after about three to four good whacks... no perm damage and you walk away. 30secs -1 min all over.

Best plan ever is not to get into the fight to begin with.
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I took karate from a family owned karate school. I don't care where someone studies karate, I object to the idea of practicing for a year or so doing that silly form crap, then when you go to spar for the 1st time, they tell you "Forget everything we've told you so far, in a real fight, you have to protect your head and keep your hands up, plus you need to move all over instead of with perfect form". That may work with years of sparing, but the 1st rule of any armed or unarmed combat practice is to practice EXACTLY as you want to perform. Except for sparing, Karate does very little of that, especialy with newer students.
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Brazillian Ju Jitsu is great for self defense, and they teach form that you'll actually use when you're in a fight. Bring your opponent to the ground and put em into a hold!
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Kyokushinkai is bare knuckles full contact and we spar at the end of every class reinforcing what we learned. We have katas and such but it's focus is the fight throught the class. The idea behind the style is one to two strikes and it's over regardless of what your opponent does. If you block your arm gets broken if you don't block it's your ribs. The thigh strikes are brutal if not used to recieving them, ask anyone in kick boxing or thai boxing. In our class it's forbidden to punch to the head for fear of injuring your class mate. Many years are spent learning to control the power of what one learned early on, as opposed to gradually learning to be effective as in most arts.

I started martial arts as a child in Judo, can't say enough good things about a grounding in this art.
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Please don't get the idea that I disrespect intensive studying of any martial art, but I have a few more somewhat anti-Karate thoughts to share.

While I have never been in a true balls out fist fight, I can tell you from real world experience of people I know, and people I have trained under that it is unreasonable to expect any worthy opponent to go down from one or two strikes. With the exception of a serious eye, throat, or knee strike, many people will keep right on fighting, because during a fight, adrenaline and endorphine levels peak, and pain is a non-issue. Even if you nail the nerve that goes along the length of the leg, many times someone in a fight won't even feel it until later. In a real streetfight, except for a true martial arts master, (as in someone with 20 years or more of experience, not an 18 month black belt,) or if weapons are used, the fight will be an ugly situation where people get hurt and many, many blows are delivered.

Consider this, from a distance I saw several people jump my best friend outside of the High School we went to. The fight was started when the leader of the gang that jumped him got him by surprise and broke his jaw. I ran to help him, but I didn't get the chance. Even with a busted jaw, he beat the tar out of everybody in about 10 seconds. He actually managed to pick up and throw the gang's leader at the rest of his attackers. I ran to join the fight as fast as I could, but the High School's cop along with a gym teacher broke it up before I got there. In the end, every person who fought had to go to the hospital, but they would have fought longer if given the chance.

The class I took at a nearby community college is taught by men who used to be punk streetfighters, and have a good understanding of how actuall street fighting differs from martial arts. They were also trained by a man you may be familiar with named Rex Applegate, who was perhaps the 20th century's formost expert on all types of close quarters fighting. Again, a proper SD class, such as the one I took, will arguably be better than any formal martial art, because it has no traditions it must adhere too, and instead it just focuses on what works.

One last thing, I too admire Judo ground techniques. Kung Fu also has some great grapeling maneuvers.
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Brazillian Ju Jitsu is great for self defense, and they teach form that you'll actually use when you're in a fight. Bring your opponent to the ground and put em into a hold!
...and your victims buddy strolls up and kicks you in the head. Trouble often comes in twos. Grappling is a useful skill but should be a last resort.
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Grappling is very important, because a majority of fights end up with someone on the ground. I wouldn't call grappling a last resort, I would call it a skill made crucial by inevitability.
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The fight was started when the leader of the gang that jumped him got him by surprise and broke his jaw. I ran to help him, but I didn't get the chance. Even with a busted jaw, he beat the tar out of everybody in about 10 seconds.
Sounds like one or two blows per person with a little time to dance no? AND he won...nice.
Grapples are ok but trying to get people to the ground is the kiss of death in a fight, IMHO. I prefer Kung Fu for it's contact point applications, great fun. Like the thumb in hip cluster to collapse a body. Or the frozen arm strike in the shoulder. The only reason many many blows are delivered are two fold..... their drunk and can't feel anything, and generally they do as much damage to themselves when they hit like girls. A boxer will goto jail for hitting someone in the head in a streetfight. Most good fighters don't get into street fights, they know better.

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Studying grappling is the best way to learn how NOT to get taken down, and how to end a fight quickly if you do despite your best efforts. It's as simple as that. Nobody who promotes grappling for self defense would suggest rolling around on the ground as a first go-to move.
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