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Old 03-01-06, 01:46 PM   #1
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I'm torn

I have a moto. A BMW R1100GS. I love that thing. I've toured through lots of offroad routes here in my neck of the woods like the Flat Tops, Escalante, tons of passes and tons of short day asphalt tours.

The hair on my neck stands straight up when I start planning a trip, loading the panniers and getting ready for some off road fun. I mean that in a good way.

But my wife isn't a fan. The bike isn't really a two up bike. It's a solo adventurer. She's too short to ride most enduros and she's not really inclined towards moto sports. She's a great cycling and skiing partner ...but not a moto head.

The only thing that bothers me about my bike is that I've never been down hard in the past 11 years. I usually take a riding course every few years. I know that the courses have helped a lot. But eventually, I'm going down. I know this. I wouldn't talk about this on a moto forum because talking about going down with a bunch of moto heads is like talking about butter consumption with a pastry chef ...the response is going to be the same... "what's your point?"

I'm also about to become a dad for the first time in my 43 years of this life.

If I sell the bike, I would walk away with 6K. That's enough to buy another road or mountain bike and then some.

If I sell the bike, I will miss it dearly.

I'm getting pressure from the family. I'm torn.

I need your perspective. What do you think?
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Old 03-01-06, 02:24 PM   #2
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From the jist of your post I think you already know the answer. Keep it.
I'd bet if you sell it, eventually you would need to replace the bike. Thus, possibly costing you more money.

Try to give up as few hobbies as possible when your child is born. Change is inevitable with having a child. However, you should give up hobbies when you choose to do so not when pressured to do it. I gave up cycling for 2 years after my son was born and regretted it.
Then again money is a big issue. However, with bringing a child into the world you will never have enough of it. $6K may not make much of a dent over the long term.
Just do what you want.
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Old 03-01-06, 02:30 PM   #3
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I'm also about to become a dad for the first time in my 43 years of this life.

If I sell the bike, I would walk away with 6K. That's enough to buy another road or mountain bike and then some.
Congrats on the kid on the way. Being a dad will change your perspective of where your money goes. If you want to spend 6k on a nice roadie or mtb, though, you might want to do that before the young'un arrives.... It's hard to keep cash on hand when there is another mouth to feed, or at the very least there is that little buzzing in the back of my head every time I get a bit of mad money that says: Hey, some Sidi Dominator 5's would be really nice, but how's that monthly budget doing for the family, eh?

Sell the bike. Buy a nice 3k roadie and a nice 3k mtb.
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Wait a sec...... you KNOW you're going down on the moto, but who says you won't on a mountain or road bike? More people get hurt trying to slice a bagel than motorcycling or bicycling combined (my brother-in-law is an ER doc and those are his observations). If going down on your moto is your ONLY concern, then keep it. Don't know what the dynamics of your family and relationships are like so can't really help you there. If it were me, my family stay out of my business and my hubby always supports me in what I want to do, as long as I keep it legal
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Old 03-01-06, 02:49 PM   #5
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WHOLLY CRAP, NICK your becoming a FATHER??? YIPPIE send my congrats to Shannon.
Hmm, so my opinion on the bike thing and coming from a girl.
It sounds like the bike could be (YOUR) thing, something that you could do for self on down time when you have down time. I respect Shannon's view and her fear might be safety. Also, if you do keep the bike how much will you use it. Will you get your monies worth by keeping it??
If you give it up will you regret your decision later??
Also, becoming a parent puts a new perspective on life so you have to ask yourself whats really important the bike now or money for the baby,you and wife??
God I don't know I'm not married nor have children but MANY CONGRATS to you both.

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The registration and insurance costs for a motorcycle are next to nothing. BMWs are renowned for their low-maintenance. It will not cost you very much money or time to simply hang onto the bike for at least the first year of your child's life. You and your wife are about to go through a major life change. I would suggest keeping the bike for a year or two, and then re-evaluating things. You may find that you really need the finite escape that the bike provides. On the other hand, you may find that you have evolved in a way that no longer makes you need or want the bike. There will always be people looking for a used R1100GS. Don't keep it forever if you don't ride it, but don't get rid of it prematurely.

Your concern about going down is evidence of the changes that are already taking place. I wish that I could tell you that you will always keep it shiny side up, but I can't. You are obviously skilled and mature enough to minimize the risks, but they are still there. Only you can truly decide if you're comfortable with the risks.

Do not sell the bike without setting up some other way for you to get away from it all for a bit.

Oh , and CONGRATULATIONS!
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Old 03-01-06, 03:45 PM   #7
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She's a great cycling and skiing partner ...but not a moto head.

I'm also about to become a dad for the first time in my 43 years of this life.

If I sell the bike, I would walk away with 6K. That's enough to buy another road or mountain bike and then some.
Sell the moto to somebody who will appriciate it. You will be too busy to use it. Since she's a great cycling partner, I take it you already have a bike. Take a bit of time looking for a bike trailer, and bikes to tow it if your current bikes arent suitable for a trailer. You will still have a bit of money left over for something made of gold and sapphire for your wife - you wont regret it.
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Nick, we're on the same boards with (pretty much) the same bikes. My two cents: sell the bike, but only on the condition you get another one (the R12 is great for pillions, so says my wife) later if you wish. You might not miss it once a kid comes into play, or you might miss it more. The risks of ending up disabled from a moto crash are exponentially higher and you do have someone else to consider. I speak from experience there. In either case make certain you are well insured. I keep the moto's as long as I keep the life, short & long term disability insurance. If nothing else, after a year of being moto-free and miserable (should that be the case) your wife should respect that tried to accomodate her wishes and now accomodate yours ( new bike!). Whatever you do, don't let the blowhards on moto boards bluff you into a mistake.
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Two things.

One. I've never understood the mentality of "I'm going to go down, it's just a matter of when". I've ridden street bikes for 24 years and never really come close.

Two. I got into commuting on the bicycle for a couple of years and sold the motorcycle I had at the time due to lack of use. Big mistake. You don't know what you've got til it's gone. Almost as soon as I did'nt have it I really missed riding even if it wasn't very much. Then I changed jobs and really could'nt commute on the bicycle and really missed the MC. Now I have two bicycles and a Harley and I'll live happily ever after.

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Old 03-01-06, 04:12 PM   #10
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Ditch the beemer, get a designated track bike and do track days. Safer than riding on the road, more fun than you could ever imagine. Now if you could only sell that to the family...
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Old 03-01-06, 04:37 PM   #11
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READ MY WORDS: KEEP THE BIKE

You will be too busy making everybody happy, but the bike will make YOU happy and only you.
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Old 03-01-06, 10:31 PM   #12
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Why dont you give the bike to me and I'll give you a mountain bike. comeon raleighs are classics. Seriously though. From what I have herd, with a kid you won't log the hours on the bike to make it worth hanging on to. That is all I feel qualified to say.
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I've never understood the mentality of "I'm going to go down, it's just a matter of when". I've ridden street bikes for 24 years and never really come close.
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telenick, ^^^this is really the only issue I have with your post. Sounds pretty defeatist to me. I'm with soonerschwinn on this, at least. I know that there is always the possibility of an accident, but I don't look at it as something unavoidable. I've never laid my bike down, either...just other people's.

I think spunkyruss has the right idea as far as what to do with the bike. Keep it until you guys have the baby, then reevaluate your decision after a year or two. Not using the bike by then(or maybe sooner)? Get rid of it.
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Ive had a zillion bikes and lost interest in them because
I overcomplicated things sooo much that It just became too
much. Paying for regs, tools, repairs etc etc on 4 bikes at a time....
I just lost that luvin' feeling
But, I have kept my old (t)rusty DR650 stashed in the back of my
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Thanks for all the thoughts and well wishes too. I'm depositing the moto comments in my head and waiting before I decide to decide ...if you know what I mean.

I gotta hand it to you guys. You seem to have a knack for peeling back the layers to finding a more raw truth revealed.

I just got back from the Moab Skinny Tire Festival. There I was in the garage unloading the bikes. I took a moment to turn over the engine on the moto and smiled. Then it was back to unpacking.

BTW, the festival was a blast. The comraderie, the rides, the weather, the vistas ... pretty awesome event.
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Congratulations!
Financially secure?
Wife not down on moto?
Sidecar for the kid/wife.
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I had a similar thought: An Ural hack.
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Update:

I sold the moto last week to a d00d in Boulder.

Thought y'all might like some closure.



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Ditch the beemer, get a designated track bike and do track days. Safer than riding on the road, more fun than you could ever imagine. Now if you could only sell that to the family...
998, that's exactly how I felt about motos for my future when I decided to take the cash and move on.

First I need to replace my stolen Seven. I'm thinking of drinking the cool aide and getting a Serotta.
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telenick, ^^^this is really the only issue I have with your post. Sounds pretty defeatist to me.
Kaldar,

It's an 1100 enduro. Going down is part of the game if you're on the dirt, crossing rivers, negotiating gnar-gnar washed out off-road.

Just addressing thoughts that were expressed with my responses.

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I think anything worth talking about with so much passion is not worth selling..
You can always find a away to get money withought taking away something that makes your loved one so happy you dont need to share all your hobbies with your spouse in order to feel whole, there is something called individuality that also makes a person so desirable.
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I had a somewhat similar situation come up last year, Nick. I had a K100RS that used to belong to my best friend. He died of cancer about 8 years ago and I bought the bike from his wife. It replaced an old R65; my friend and I used to go riding together before he got sick. I rode the K-bike regularly for a couple of years and then kind of lost interest. I did find that whenever I got it out, I'd end up with a grin on my face, kind of like your smile when you started yours up in the garage. Similarly, my wife never expressed much interest in joining me on rides, although it was a bit more of a two-up bike than yours.

Anyway, I sold it last winter, and the emotional attachment was harder to break than the love of riding the thing. Except for the occassional twinge, I haven't missed having it around. Here's hoping either you feel the same way about yours, or if not, you can find another one you like as well. Seems like you got enough for it that you can replace it if needs be. That doesn't solve your initial quandry though, does it?

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