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Old 03-21-06, 11:09 AM   #1
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Stupid "secret" tracks...

Who the hell do you think you are.. hiding behind 2 minutes of pure silence. What's wrong with artists, you think you're so cool cause you know how to stick in a track behind 2 minutes of silence? It's not even a secret track. It just forces the listener to sit through 2 minutes of silence before we're forced to sit through another 2 minutes of listening to you practice. At least some of the "smarter" people hide it before 0 seconds so you have to rewind pass 0 to listen to it.
It's not cute, it's not special, it's annoying. It's like sitting in the stall at work, making all the toilet paper sounds, flushing, getting up, then sitting right back down to splash another one in while someone's waiting to use it.
What the hell, cut it out!!
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Old 03-21-06, 11:17 AM   #2
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I couldn't agree more. Those things have annoyed me for years now.
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Old 03-21-06, 12:12 PM   #3
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Take a leaf from John Cage and issue and entire CD of silence, I say.
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Old 03-21-06, 03:13 PM   #4
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I got an Oasis CD a few years back, threw it in the player and it said there was almost 75 minutes of music. Turns out the last 40 minutes were 37 minutes of silence, followed by the mystery track. Good rant, slvoid.
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Old 03-21-06, 03:18 PM   #5
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What else is it like?
I always found to be like a trick I say pulled umpteen times in Paris. You see somebody backing out of a parking space on a very busy day in a parking lot. ANother car is waiting for them to go, and the original car just pulls back in.

What I do is rip the tracks in Vorbis format, and edit out the silence.
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Old 03-21-06, 04:47 PM   #6
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What else is it like?
I always found to be like a trick I say pulled umpteen times in Paris. You see somebody backing out of a parking space on a very busy day in a parking lot. ANother car is waiting for them to go, and the original car just pulls back in.

What I do is rip the tracks in Vorbis format, and edit out the silence.
I edit mine in Audacity. Just the MP3's, tho. I don't burn edited copies of the CD's or anything.
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Old 03-21-06, 05:23 PM   #7
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I dont burn edited copies of the music either. Since hte only time I listen to music is on the computer anyways
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Old 03-21-06, 07:08 PM   #8
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lol iv got a CD... saying theres a secret track but the track's name and details are listed in the menu... now thats stupid
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Secret Tracks... = STUPID

I just edit them out usually!

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I agree to a certain extent. I like the hidden tracks sometimes though.

The really long ones are annoying but short silences are cool. Anything over a 2 minutes is obnoxious. The frustrating ones are the 10 minutes or more of silence, especially when already in mp3 format. Silence in an mp3 still takes up the same amount of space as Audio and therefore 20 minutes tracks of mostly silence are still huge. Especially annoying when the preceeding song is one you enjoy but space is at a premium on an iPod.

Such as New Found Glory's track "The Story so Far" from the album "Sticks and Stones".
36.6MB
00:00-03:49 "The Story So Far":
03:50-04:06 Ending noises [feedback fading]
04:07-25:06 Silence (21 minutes!)
25:07-26:36 Hidden Track of obscure noises, "creepy" voices, just general junk.. crappy hidden track altogether.

79% of the 36.6MB track is silence.. that's 28.9 MB of NOTHING!
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I agree to a certain extent. I like the hidden tracks sometimes though.

The really long ones are annoying but short silences are cool. Anything over a 2 minutes is obnoxious. The frustrating ones are the 10 minutes or more of silence, especially when already in mp3 format. Silence in an mp3 still takes up the same amount of space as Audio and therefore 20 minutes tracks of mostly silence are still huge. Especially annoying when the preceeding song is one you enjoy but space is at a premium on an iPod.

Such as New Found Glory's track "The Story so Far" from the album "Sticks and Stones".
36.6MB
00:00-03:49 "The Story So Far":
03:50-04:06 Ending noises [feedback fading]
04:07-25:06 Silence (21 minutes!)
25:07-26:36 Hidden Track of obscure noises, "creepy" voices, just general junk.. crappy hidden track altogether.

79% of the 36.6MB track is silence.. that's 28.9 MB of NOTHING!
Yeah, that's what I usually edit. I freed up about 400MB on my player just editing out silence/non-music, and I know there's several songs I missed.
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Old 03-22-06, 10:28 AM   #12
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why the hell would you buy a cd? they all suck and ya get bored with them after about 30 minutes anyway.
Yeah, everyone knows vinyl is the way to go. When you get tired of listening to them forwards, you play them backwards to get the truly scary, secret tracks. How else would I have known to listen to Rick Dee's dog for further instructions? (if you catch that reference you get the star for the day)
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Old 03-22-06, 09:42 PM   #13
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I rarely ever listen to music. If I want to hear a certain song, I just imagine it.
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Old 03-22-06, 11:05 PM   #14
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why the hell would you buy a cd? they all suck and ya get bored with them after about 30 minutes anyway.
No DRM (for the most part anyway). Use your music how you want, while respecting the efforts of the artist and obeying the law, that is. iTunes and Napster can kiss my butt. Until they figure out that DRM accomplishes nothing but inconveniencing the law-abiding customers, I'm happy to buy CD's for 1/3 price off BMG and rip them to MP3 so I can listen to them anywhere.


Yeah, the hidden tracks are annoying because you run into one while on random play, and all of the sudden there's no noise coming out for 15 minutes.
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The two minutes of silence are a service to the listener. Gives you time to shut the thing off before the horrid practice session recording starts playing.
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I remember hearing the song Train in Vain by The Clash. I loved the message of that song. I could not find it listed anywhere. It was a hidden track on London Calling.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_track
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I think the original idea behind it was novel, however most musicians abuse it.
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