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Old 03-22-06, 09:29 PM   #1
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Dual citizenship, France/America, could I be drafted?

Well my father was born and raised in France, and we just discovered that I either already am, or am eligible to become, a French citizen.
I am not living in France, does this mean I could be drafted to the French army?
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Old 03-22-06, 09:32 PM   #2
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um...I wouldn't worry about it too hard...
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Old 03-22-06, 09:34 PM   #4
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does this mean I could be drafted to the French army?
dunno, but look on the bright side. Even if you were, you wouldn't have to do anything.
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At the risk of moving this to P&R...

Twentieth century history would suggest that the Germans will overrun France, and then at some point, the Americans will bail them out. So French citizenship or not, you'll be drafted anyway. So don't worry about it.
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Might want to pack yourself some good running shoes just in case.
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Look, it's the French "Army"!

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You have to be a French citizen to be drafted. You also have to be in France and enter w/ a French passport and be of draft age. Then you could be drafted, but you probably wouldn't.
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Of course if they drafted him, maybe he could build the French some kind of super laser CNC killing machine.
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You probably don't ride that fast, I wouldn't worry about anyone drafting you.
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Old 03-22-06, 11:55 PM   #13
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France has an army?

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At least the French Army has guns, the Canadian military is still trying to figure out where to get them.
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At least the French Army has guns, the Canadian military is still trying to figure out where to get them.
There's this street corner in a bad part of Halifax...
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There's this street corner in a bad part of Halifax...
Oh, word?

I'll mail that to the commander, right away.
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Y'all are cracking me up with your witty jokes. Really, you're killin' me. ha ha ha

You'll want to check carefully. My husband had to fill out some form certifying that he lived in the US, not France. Check with the French Consulate in your region. I've found them to be quite helpful here in DC.

Dual citizenship has opened alot of doors for me. Not only can I travel to and work in France with no hassles, but all of the EU, too. With the political situation as it is in the US, I don't go blabbing too much about the dual citizenship thing. Best to keep it under wraps, what with unwarranted surveillance and the general intolerance of foreigners.
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The French are actually some of the more militarized folks around. They used to drop atomic bombs on bits of paradise islands just for fun, it would seem. The less said about their actions in Africa the better.

Just because they opposed our most recent war, we shouldn't assume they are any less likely to be armed. Anyone remember Napoleon? There was a peace loving hippy for you.
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Holy moly, my fellow Americans.... why all the French Army hating?

Did you only learn 20th Century American History, or did your teachers bother to cover the American Revolution of the 18th Century? You know, the one where Sam Adams and his buddies dumped some tea into Cape Cod and then started brewing their own beer and the John Hancock invented that groovy signature on the Declaration of Constitutionality or whatever?

Who the heck do you think bailed out the nascent American militia? Yeah, it was none other than that wimpy cheese and wine sipping crowd from France. Lafayette ain't the name of a city in virtually every American state for no reason, right?

WWI and WWII were a nice way to repay the favor, don't you think?
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A friend of mine faced a similar situation re Italy. He actually was an Italian citizen, however. Eventually gave it up rather than do his military service.

I think as long as you don't apply for French citizenship (which I understand is a royal pain), you're not going to get drafted.

As for Francophobia, let's see - the quasi war of 1787-1790 when the French navy and privateers caused the loss of 300 US ships and the XYZ affair certainly showed that the earlier French support during the revolution had nothing to do with affection for the US and everything to do with France's narrow self interest. France's refusal to divest itself of it's colonies without humiliating military defeats led directly to infusing SE Asia with cold war politics and by extension US involvement in Vietnam. No need to discuss French behavior during WWII or the disruptive influence of Degaulism (sp?).

Yeah, any debt to France is long since paid.
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My 5 year old son has Polish and US passports. If he enters Poland at age 18. using his Polish Passport, he could be conscripted (mandatory one year service there for males). Unlikely though - since he doesnt speak a word of Polish.
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PC2 I would worry more about what would happen if the US drafted you. Your dual citizenship would come out and any chance of a high level security clearance could be fried. Front line combat for you.

Anyway some obscure technicalities indicate the New Hampshire never legally became a State. If Quebec ever splits from the rest of Canada you may end up serving there . They have a nice bike trail.
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I think as long as you don't apply for French citizenship (which I understand is a royal pain), you're not going to get drafted.
I don't know about the drafting part; the OP should look into it somewhere other than BF. When I applied for citizenship it was not a royal pain at all. It was quite uneventful. Probably about the same as applying for US citizenship, but I don't know what that all entails.

I don't get all the Francophobia. Is it new since the oh-so-successful current unpleasantness in Babylon? What ever happened to the whole American in Paris phenomenon? Puzzling, really. If you don't like France, don't go. I'm sure the French won't miss you.
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If you carry a citizenship for any country that means that you should be willing to serve that country should they call for. I find it both sad and pathetic that people would attempt to shirk serving their country(s) and yet wish to maintain their citizenship in their country(s).
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