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Old 05-14-06, 11:21 PM   #1
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Sex and Violence

We Americans are the biggest hypocrites. We find all aspects of sex taboo, yet we are obsessed with violence. However, the majority of horrible crimes seem to be sex-related, likely due to the barrage of sexual images used to sell us stuff.

We sell our kids toy guns, and hoochie clothes to little girls, yet are surprised when teenage boys shoot up schools, and teenage girls become pregnant.

We will show a cop shooting a man holding hostages at 6:00 (just in time for dinner), yet janet Jackson flashes one nipple, and all hell breaks loose.

So, in light of this, I open the discussion with a query: If, given a choice of careers (meaning a job that would define your life), which would you find absolutely unimaginable? Porn Star, or Assassin? Prostitute or Sniper? Exotic Dancer, or Hitman
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What is worse? Getting paid for sex, or violence? Which profession could you live with? What are you most afraid/ashamed of, and why?

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Old 05-14-06, 11:38 PM   #2
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Yeah wtf, why can't I let my twig and berries out to breath once in a while. America ****ing sucks I tell ya what.
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We Americans are the biggest hypocrites. We find all aspects of sex taboo, yet we are obsessed with violence. However, the majority of horrible crimes seem to be sex-related, likely due to the barrage of sexual images used to sell us stuff.

We sell our kids toy guns, and hoochie clothes to little girls, yet are surprised when teenage boys shoot up schools, and teenage girls become pregnant.

We will show a cop shooting a man holding hostages at 6:00 (just in time for dinner), yet janet Jackson flashes one nipple, and all hell breaks loose.

So, in light of this, I open the discussion with a query: If, given a choice of careers (meaning a job that would define your life), which would you find absolutely unimaginable? Porn Star, or Assassin? Prostitute or Sniper? Exotic Dancer, or Hitman?

What is worse? Getting paid for sex, or violence? Which profession could you live with? What are you most afraid/ashamed of, and why?
Speak for yourself sista, I like to get freaky-deaky.
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Old 05-15-06, 12:18 AM   #4
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Not suprising considering the puritan heritage, the Revolution, and the taking of the West. In that historical context, its not suprising that repressed sexuality is often expressed with violence.
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Yah, it's sick and twisted. We can't even show a nipple on TV, yet people getting shot up, dismembered and sliced and diced is perfectly OK...

I would be an assassin....
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I remember a stand-up comedian saying something along the line of "They DO celebrate thanksgiving in England, it's called **** off, puritans!"
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Sniper... I wanna be a sniper so bad...
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I would want to be 47 from the Hitman games.

Then I could have my cake and eat it, too.
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Well, when people keep voting Republican, what do ya expect?
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Sniper, Hitman and Assassin. Anything related to sex has been proven time and time again to have an extremely negative impact on young children's development and has an alarming rate of these children turning to prostitution, drugs, depression and suicide.
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If I had to chose between murdering and prostituting myself, I would chose neither career. A life being a beggar would be a better choice.
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If I had to chose between murdering and prostituting myself, I would chose neither career. A life being a beggar would be a better choice.
Come on man. Think Double Oh Seven. Get the best of both worlds. a little kiling a little luvin from a prostitute
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This is in part why I find slasher films so amusing....

....we can't see the actual "intimate contact" between a man and woman, regardless of context, but we can watch some poor woman get thrown into a pit full of dirty syringes (Saw II)....of course if it's a **** scene, it's somehow more acceptable than porn...go figure. Hypocrasy for the win.

....and don't get me started on Janet's tit....people that get offended at that need to grow up. Honestly, I don't see any reason to be ashamed of what we were born with. It doesn't mean go around topless, but for pete's sake, the human body is not Medusa....so let's stop acting like we are going to die some horrid death if we see it....mmkay?
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Can't I be both a male prostitute and an assassin?

These days, you gotta diversify your skills in order to remain competative in the job market.
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Personally, I'm glad that most obese people don't flash a lot of skin.

I wouldn't relish any of the above-mentioned "jobs". I guess I might consider being a hitman and doing in people who are into gratuitous violence - but that would be one of those moral and philosophical conundrums that could make people who can't live with ambiguity go crazy. I managed to escape that (yes, the tree falling in the forest with nobody around to hear it does make a sound. Got another stupid question mate?).

Oh - where was I. Violence. Bad, and always obscene. Sex, best kept private, and sometimes obscene. Bicycle racing! That's what we need more of on TV.
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Personally, I'm glad that most obese people don't flash a lot of skin.
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I wouldn't relish any of the above-mentioned "jobs". I guess I might consider being a hitman and doing in people who are into gratuitous violence - but that would be one of those moral and philosophical conundrums that could make people who can't live with ambiguity go crazy. I managed to escape that (yes, the tree falling in the forest with nobody around to hear it does make a sound. Got another stupid question mate?).
That would be a very ironic situation
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Oh - where was I. Violence. Bad, and always obscene. Sex, best kept private, and sometimes obscene. Bicycle racing! That's what we need more of on TV.
Yes! Yes! Yes!
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I too think our society is alittle mixed up on things but I for one wouldn't want to see any of my co-workers NAKED!!! YIKES.
Anyhoo, I wouldn't chose any of the aboved named professions just simply for the fact that I hold myself to a higher standard. I will also say that I am a freaky girl in bed and think that sex should be explored more then hidden in the closet. I don't think we would have the issues that we do have if people would be more open and willingly to discuss the topic!
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I'm just a gigolo, and everywhere I go
People know the part I'm playing
Paid for every dance, selling each romance
Every night some heart betraying

There will come a day when youth will pass away
Then what will they say about me
When the end comes I know they'll say just a gigolo as
Life goes on without me

There will come a day when youth will pass away
Then what will they say about me
When the end comes I know they'll say just a gigolo as
Life goes on without me, 'cause...

I ain't got nobody
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OH!

I know who I could be!

Jean Reno in Leon: The Professional.
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Anything related to sex has been proven time and time again to have an extremely negative impact on young children's development and has an alarming rate of these children turning to prostitution, drugs, depression and suicide.
It's not sex that's the problem, it's portraying it as something forbidden, dirty, and bad that's the problem. Totally conflicts with how they're feeling on the inside and makes them feel guilty and then blaming them for it that makes it even worse. Repression and avoidance of the topic is no substitute for education and experience.

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Steady...
steady...
hold your breath...
ease the trigger back, gently...
verify hit...
leave the country via the nearest border town...
make your way back to beach house in Monaco...

So where do I apply for the assassin job?
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That is a VERY good post... yes you have me thinking and I should add.. I agree how much sex is taboo is this country. When I first moved here the first thing I notice is what words were taboo and used for swears.. all swears all sex related... as compare to canada, all swears as religion related.. we swear using church words and you folks use sex words and then I went on noticing how big pornograghie was here and how very little you could openly discuss sex. I really like your post, makes you think.
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That is a VERY good post... yes you have me thinking and I should add.. I agree how much sex is taboo is this country. When I first moved here the first thing I notice is what words were taboo and used for swears.. all swears all sex related... as compare to canada, all swears as religion related.. we swear using church words and you folks use sex words and then I went on noticing how big pornograghie was here and how very little you could openly discuss sex. I really like your post, makes you think.
I was getting worried about you when you weren't online earlier, what with all this flooding
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