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    USA's Best and Worst Drivers.

    MSN had an actually interesting article for once about in which states drivers performed the best on a standard test similar to the knowledge tests required as part of getting a license. Oregon and Washington scored the highest (represent), while Rhode Island was the worst. Shockingly, Florida was all the way up at #40. Granted, my experience with drivers in Florida is mostly limited to the Miami area and I've never been to any of the states that scored lower, but the idea that there are drivers even worse than that is terrifying.

    When I visited Miami, we'd been in our rental car for almost 5 full minutes before seeing our first accident. It also seems there is some kind of law stating that your turn signal must not be used more frequently than the horn and all drivers must squeal their tires on red-to-green light transitions. Anybody else's states deserve to be higher or lower on the list?
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    The thing to understand about Florida is that just about everyone in Florida is from somewhere else. Wife and I are the only natives in our 'hood. But Miami is just plain bad. I've driven in too many cities to list, and the worst was Boston, IMO. New England drivers just don't care about anybody else on the road. Florida drivers generally don't SEE anybody else on the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BikerBrent
    New England drivers just don't care about anybody else on the road
    New England drivers care about other people in the road! We care that you're in our way!

    Once you get used to the unique Massachusetts driving style, it's really not that bad. I was pretty shocked when I first moved here, but then you learn how it works. *shrug*
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    God....I hate Mass drivers....one time I was there I encountered how they "check for oncoming traffic" when at a high speed intersection.

    Namely the fool just drove out in front of me and stopped....I had to pull a 55-0 in record distance (in a mustang is does it in about 60ft...I had to do it in about 40)...I made it, with inches to spare....

    Now get this....this moron now gets into reverse and pulls out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamlucky13
    Shockingly, Florida was all the way up at #40. Granted, my experience with drivers in Florida is mostly limited to the Miami area and I've never been to any of the states that scored lower, but the idea that there are drivers even worse than that is terrifying.
    And people tease me for being afraid to ride on the road here. It seems about once a week I hear about a cyclist getting hit around here.
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    Alabama drivers are generally polite; we'll allow people that want to turn left actually do so and let people into the flow of traffic instead of just looking straight ahead and pretending they aren't there.

    I-65 is pretty much a free-speed zone; I've gotten passed a number of times while doing 90. If you are doing 70 you are blocking traffic.

    Yesterday I had a cyclist in front of me but since I only had 4 blocks to go I just stayed behind him until I got to my turn. He was doing ~24mph so I figured I'd just draft off him.

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    Heh well that kind of backs up my hunch that East coast seems to have worse drivers. Some of the worst states are the new england states.
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    What the hell do you mean, 'New England drivers are bad?'

    Hold on a second, this jerk just cut me off. Can't he see I'm trying to type a message and eat my f'n croissant on the damn highway!


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    It is very hazardous to make generalities from state to state. There are too many variables to take everything into account. Community to community is probably safer, but still rather broad. One thing that makes a big difference are the local roads and conditions. I hate driving in any large urban area due to the traffic, but I can state that driving around Dallas is a lot better than driving around Washington, San Francisco, LA, or Miami. In my limited experience, Boston wasn't that bad. The DC metro area gets my vote for the worst. Gridlock is a given, but the percentage of people willing to stick it to their fellow motorists by blatantly breaking traffic rules and just plain being rude is astounding - especially in Northern Virginia.

    My absolutely worst experience driving occurred on the DC beltway on a Saturday evening when there was a 4" - 8" snowfall. Yes, road conditions weren't the best, but at least 50% of the drivers were just plain ridiculous. As I got closer into the city (we were going home from a wedding and had to pass through the area), I couldn't believe what I saw as we averaged 2 mph. There were hundreds of cars abandoned - not on the side of the road, but right in the lanes of traffic - perfectly positioned at random to create the greatest possible inconvenience to the remaining competent and semi-competent who were left on the highway.

    My 4 best large urban areas (from the limited number I've been in, and some of this from a long time ago, so it might no longer be the case): Dallas, San Diego, Detroit, Sacramento.

    Worst 5 - D.C., Miami (Why does I-95 not go further south?), San Francisco, NYC, Los Angeles
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    Heh well that kind of backs up my hunch that East coast seems to have worse drivers. Some of the worst states are the new england states.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasGuy
    Heh well that kind of backs up my hunch that East coast seems to have worse drivers. Some of the worst states are the new england states.
    I haven't experienced it first-hand, but I've heard horror stories about traveling through Houston (think hurricane Rita). I think that any time you have more than the intended number of people trying to get somewhere on roadways, you're going to have problems. I will say this though. If there's snow on the road, I'd rather have a New Englander driving me somewhere than a southerner.
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    Ah that list is B.S. NYC drivers are the best in the country. It's the rest of the country that can't drive w/ us that thinks we're bad drivers.
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    Cali did better (# 14) that I'd expect based on personal experience.... But then, it's one thing to be knowledgeable about the road rules and regulations, it's another to actually follow them

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    Quote Originally Posted by peregrine
    Cali did better (# 14) that I'd expect based on personal experience.... But then, it's one thing to be knowledgeable about the road rules and regulations, it's another to actually follow them
    heh. yeah.
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    Geez, DC is so close to the bottom on the list ... I thought every bike commuter has at least 1 near-miss each morning.
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    has anyone driven in New Orleans? Some piece of advice, dont come here, it sucks. People dont respect you on the road, you drive behind a car that is falling apart. People dont stop for stop signs, they run red lights like 24/7. People here think they are "proffessional, or good" drivers, where you look at there car you can see paint from like other cars, or paint from parking poles or what not. Like my dad says, " your car shows what kind of person you are"
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    Quote Originally Posted by russiankdi
    People here think they are "proffessional, or good" drivers...
    I don't remember the exact numbers, but one survey found that something like 90% of drivers considered themselves "above average."

    Quote Originally Posted by peregrine
    Cali did better (# 14) that I'd expect based on personal experience.... But then, it's one thing to be knowledgeable about the road rules and regulations, it's another to actually follow them
    I don't tend to think of Cali drivers as blatantly dangerous. They pay attention to the road but they're just pretty aggressive and and very, shall we say "space conscious." Anything gap more than 50% longer than your car is considered safe following distance. I guess things happen faster in Cali: 2 second following distance, celebrity marriages, etc.

    On the other end, my impression of Chicago drivers is they are less aggressive but don't pay as much attention. My first memory of riding with a Chicago driver was of her head down peering into the ashtry while digging through it with both hands for proper change for an upcoming toll road...while still going 70 mph.
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