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Old 06-09-06, 11:08 AM   #1
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Soccer ("futball") is incredibly boring. Real Football starts in August!

So I'm sitting here at my office with a lot of foreigners and they are going nuts over World Cup Soccer, er, "futball". I tried watching soccer but found it absolutely boring. I even went to the 3rd place World Cup Soccer game back when it was in the US at the Rose Bowl (Sweden vs. Bulgaria) and still found it dull - the only thing of interest were the Scandinavian girls in the crowd.

These soccer guys run around and kick the ball back and forth and maybe, just maybe kick it into the net. The vast majority of the game is spent kicking the ball to each other. ZZZZZZzzzzzzzz BORING! Where are the hits? Where are the tackles? Where are the smashes? Where's the violence? Most importantly, where's the excitement?

Girls play soccer, MEN play football.
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Real football is year round and real men don't wear pads and rest after 15 seconds or less of action.

Try Rugby.
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So I'm sitting here at my office with a lot of foreigners and they are going nuts over World Cup Soccer, er, "futball". I tried watching soccer but found it absolutely boring. I even went to the 3rd place World Cup Soccer game back when it was in the US at the Rose Bowl (Sweden vs. Bulgaria) and still found it dull - the only thing of interest were the Scandinavian girls in the crowd.

These soccer guys run around and kick the ball back and forth and maybe, just maybe kick it into the net. The vast majority of the game is spent kicking the ball to each other. ZZZZZZzzzzzzzz BORING! Where are the hits? Where are the tackles? Where are the smashes? Where's the violence? Most importantly, where's the excitement?

Girls play soccer, MEN play football.
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Soccer is far from boring, but it helps to have some appreciation for the rules and difficulty of the game. And if you think that soccer is for girls, then it ought to be a breeze for you to excel at no?

I guarantee you that if you forced a bunch of NFL linemen on the field and made them play soccer against a good High School team (let alone college or professionals), they'd either:

A. Lose horribly
B. Be carted off with heart attacks
C. Receive red cards (that means you're kicked out of the game)
D. any combination of the above

Soccer is a physically demanding game. Football is a physically punishing game.
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In football there's more suspense, different kinds of plays, and loads of tactics.
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Ha, turn the table and put those soccer players in a man's football game and they will be severely injured or possibly die.

I just don't get how the vast majority of the world can find this interesting. The only strategies in soccer are (a) center the ball on the goal so it can be kicked in; and (b) when you have the lead, kick the ball back and forth to each other in midfield to waste time. ZZZZZZZzzzzzzz BORING!
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Where are the hits? Where are the tackles? Where are the smashes? Where's the violence? Most importantly, where's the excitement?

Girls play soccer, MEN play football.
Ive played a lot of soccer in my day, i can uderstand that you find soccer boring, but you are being pretty ignorant about it.

There is the odd time in American Football where someone really gets hammered with a lid-lifting hit, but for the most part, they seem like pretty harmless tackles, and with the aid of a LOT of padding, they dont hurt much.

I would much rather take one of those tackles than a hard soccer tackle, they can mess you up real good.

Where is the violence? Yeah, soccer riots never happen do they?!

Excitement? its hard to come by when you are watching it on tv, but some games are fantastic. If you feel like it, watch the Barcelona/Chelsea champions league quarter final? (someone correct me on this one) from 2005, one of the best 2-leg matches i have ever seen...

And finally, if you think only girls play this game, check this link out... (for anyone who doesnt like looking at horrific injuries, dont click on the link) http://www.360soccer.com/resource/bussted.html



This is not a rare injury in soccer.


Give me the world cup final over the superbowl any day of the week.
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Okay
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ALL Sports ****ing suck.
They're boring as god admn ****ing ****.

The only thing that makes sports the least bit interesting, and usually its very interesting is when I'm watching it with my Dad and he's explaining everything that is going on.

I was actually watching and enjoying softball (and more then just the cute girls oooh llalalala ) but actually enjoying the game because my dad was explaining everything that went on.

So there You have it.
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Ive played a lot of soccer in my day, i can uderstand that you find soccer boring, but you are being pretty ignorant about it.

There is the odd time in American Football where someone really gets hammered with a lid-lifting hit, but for the most part, they seem like pretty harmless tackles, and with the aid of a LOT of padding, they dont hurt much.

I would much rather take one of those tackles than a hard soccer tackle, they can mess you up real good.

Where is the violence? Yeah, soccer riots never happen do they?!

Excitement? its hard to come by when you are watching it on tv, but some games are fantastic. If you feel like it, watch the Barcelona/Chelsea champions league quarter final? (someone correct me on this one) from 2005, one of the best 2-leg matches i have ever seen...

And finally, if you think only girls play this game, check this link out... http://www.360soccer.com/resource/bussted.html

This is not a rare injury in soccer.


Give me the world cup final over the superbowl any day of the week.
You've obviously not been watching football heh. There has been a dramatic increase in injuries and what not in the last couple of years. Alot of these players that do stupid stuff get lucky that they
a) aren't called on stupid illegal moves
b) that the stupid illegal move doesn't kill the person they put it on.
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In football there's more suspense, different kinds of plays, and loads of tactics.
There are plays and loads of tactics in soccer too. You may not be familiar enough with the game to recognize it, but that doesn't make it not so. Soccer, in many ways requires more thinking and focus. Play only stops at the half, when there's a foul, a score, or when the ball goes out of play. One "play" dynamically merges into another, and the whole situation can change in less than a second.
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HAH! Turn the table and put American football players in an Australian Rules football game and they'll be carted off bleeding from the ears or after suffering massive heart attacks. Imagine needing the stamina and endurance soccer players require to run around all day, but need the size and strength of football players. Remove all the padding and let the players run full steam into each other, don't stop the game due to injured players and add in those cool guys that signal goals and you've got a somewhat interesting game. Add in tons of beer and meatpies and you've got a great game!

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Ehh those players could easily do that heh. Sine they wouldn't have all the equipment. Those football players run the length with probably 50 lbs of equipment

Granted the influx in 200-300lbs+ players that have recently taken over the league in the last couple of years - yes alot of these people wouldn't make it. But the league say 10 years ago - they could have easily don it.
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TG, im not saying there isnt a lot of injuries in football too, but this mac character is being pretty ignorant about it.

IMO, rugby and aussie rules are by far the toughest sports in the world.
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I like football of both the American and international sort. Soccer is a wonderful sport, and rewards paying attention. The strategy is sometimes subtle and involves shifts on the field. A well executed off-side trap is a great thing to behold. The best way to appreciate it is to have played (HS will do). I beg anyone who thinks soccer players are not tough to try playing mid-field sometime. Man that is an exhausting position.

Football (American) is a great TV sport. There is a break every play where you get to spout off about what play they should run or argue what fools they were for not running your play on the last down. Both are great.
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Oh and soccer player typically sustain more brain damage than your average prize fighter over a career. A header off the foot of a pro player must be quite a jolt.
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Ha, turn the table and put those soccer players in a man's football game and they will be severely injured or possibly die.

I just don't get how the vast majority of the world can find this interesting. The only strategies in soccer are (a) center the ball on the goal so it can be kicked in; and (b) when you have the lead, kick the ball back and forth to each other in midfield to waste time. ZZZZZZZzzzzzzz BORING!
You're right. They are completely different games. What makes a good soccer player, does not make a good football player, and vice-versa. Nobody's saying that you should like soccer as much as football, or that you need to like it at all. You're certainly entitled to your opinions, but dissing something because you don't understand it, or don't like it isn't the way to go IMO. I don't enjoy watching hockey, but I don't make fun of them for wearing "girly" skates and pads and taking breaks every 2-3 minutes.
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Say that in an English pub, funboy!




Seriously, though? proper football > American football

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You're right. They are completely different games. What makes a good soccer player, does not make a good football player, and vice-versa. Nobody's saying that you should like soccer as much as football, or that you need to like it at all. You're certainly entitled to your opinions, but dissing something because you don't understand it, or don't like it isn't the way to go IMO. I don't enjoy watching hockey, but I don't make fun of them for wearing "girly" skates and pads and taking breaks every 2-3 minutes.
That's because there's nothing girly about Hockey. Sure, people "hit" each other all the time in other sports, but in what other sport is there actual fistfighting? Lacrosse or Jai'alai are probably the other two sports that the amount of pain you might receive is ridiculous.

Besides, I've never seen anyone in hockey, soccer, or even ribbon dancing go out for 9 months with "turf toe", and still keep a multi-million dollar contract.
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There are plays and loads of tactics in soccer too. One "play" dynamically merges into another, and the whole situation can change in less than a second.
There may be some plays in soccer, but they are all BORING. The whole concept of kicking a ball around and not being able to hit someone is what makes it a sport for girls. Men aren't afraid of being hit. I still don't see how this sport is popular around the world. Don't most people like to see combat?

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My office sometimes plays soccer as a "team-building" experience. They kept on asking me to go play with them so I finally did. (How come they don't wear mouthpieces?) They put me at midfield and said to stop the guys with the ball. So these little guys start playing twinkle-toes with their fancy footwork and kept kicking the ball past me. Imagine smaller, weaker guys getting past me. I still remember my football coach - "HIT HIM AND TAKE HIM DOWN!" So then next time I, literally, ran into him and knocked him flat on his butt and took the ball. Now that's how to play! Yeah! For some reason I was called for a penalty. So they put me as goalkeeper. Whenever someone got close to the goal, I'd dive on the ball and knock over anyone in the way. So they removed me from the game and never asked me to play again.
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ZZZZZZzzzzzzzz BORING!
Of course it's boring. Have you ever watched an English Premiership match (that's what they call a game)on television? The games are so boring that even the fans aren't watching the game. They keep themselves awake singing their team songs, getting drunk, and fighting with everyone they can get their hands on.
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Ha, turn the table and put those soccer players in a man's football game and they will be severely injured or possibly die.

I just don't get how the vast majority of the world can find this interesting. The only strategies in soccer are (a) center the ball on the goal so it can be kicked in; and (b) when you have the lead, kick the ball back and forth to each other in midfield to waste time. ZZZZZZZzzzzzzz BORING!
Let's see... soccer is a game that goes pretty much continously for the duration of the game with one intermission (halftime). Football is a game that takes 4+ hours to play 60 minutes of the game. Run a few seconds, maybe a minute if there's a break then stop for a few seconds or a few minutes. move the ball 10 yards and the officials stop the game to move chains and all. Officials spot the ball by eye, but then grab a chain and make a great show of moving the chains out and declaring the ball didn't make the 1st down by inches. Yeah... because the game is that precise.

Strategies and tactics that are stupid? Let's see... if a team is ahead near the end of the game (or half, even) and gets possession, they drop to a knee to down the ball repeatedly to run the clock out. Or run ground plays (safe ones, conservative ones designed not to score, but keep the ball inbounds) so you can waste time and run down the clock. Shouldn't this team be going all out for another TD or FG in the spirit of competition? How is this any different than kicking the ball back and forth?

Teams that are trying to catch up do much the same. Call a pass play and if you don't like the way things are developing, throw the ball out of bounds - oh, no, that's not intentional grounding; he overthrew the receiver - to get a free timeout.

And a different team - specialty team - for every part of play. Kickoff team, punt team, kickoff return team, punt return team, offense, defense etc. means no one plays more than, what, half the game at the very most??

Fair catch? Touchback? Bah. All p***y rules in a game that's about, to use your word, violence.

The Superbowl's only fun because of the commercials and the parties usually going on, otherwise, it'd be just another boring 4 hours of TV.

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Fair catch. Roughing the kicker. Roughing the quarterback....

Plus the fact that every square inch of their bodies is covered in body armor, pads and helmets. You're not hitting a man, you're hitting his pads. If your momentum is enough, down he goes.

For the record, I don't find soccer much more entertaining, but to say football is so much better? Bah.

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Soccer is far from boring, but it helps to have some appreciation for the rules and difficulty of the game. And if you think that soccer is for girls, then it ought to be a breeze for you to excel at no?

I guarantee you that if you forced a bunch of NFL linemen on the field and made them play soccer against a good High School team (let alone college or professionals), they'd either:

A. Lose horribly
B. Be carted off with heart attacks
C. Receive red cards (that means you're kicked out of the game)
D. any combination of the above

Soccer is a physically demanding game. Football is a physically punishing game.

I don't think so if I get to pick the right bunch of linemen and have a little time to train them. Give me Deacon Jones in his prime and the players on national teams that missed qualifying for the world cup would have a hard time marking him.

American football is a MONEY game as is European soccer. The top players in either will do quite well at the middle levels of most any sport just because they are basically great athletes. Not because of the sports as sport but becasue they are where the money and fame are and that attracts the best.
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I can't stand any sports on tv.
Booooorrrrrriiinnnnngggggggg!
I used to watch nascar but lost interest.
I barely watched 1/4 of a game of football each year.
It usually results in "this is the same crap when I quit watching 10 years ago".

Hockey is fun live. On tv boorrrrriiinnnnngggg.
Cycling is about the only thing I have any interest in watching. However, OLN would cost me like $30 or $40 more a month. I don't think so.
Don't even get me started on basketball...ugh!
Highschool football on espn30000 at 3:00am is sort of interesting.
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