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Old 07-10-06, 12:19 AM   #1
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Why do some Doctors, Professors etc insist on titles outside of work?

Both worthy jobs that humanity would be sad to be without of course, I'm not belittling the important job....

When I worked in sales, credit forms would sometimes have to be torn up because we'd written "Mr. Crippen", instead of "Dr. Crippen", or "Mr. Moriarty" instead of "Prof. Moriarty", and so on....

Yet no-one has ever insisted we write "Nurse Nightingale", "Teacher Amis", "Fireman Sam", "Sergeant Rock", "Officer Dibble" or the like....

Is their any quaint historical reason for this?
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Old 07-10-06, 12:25 AM   #2
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until one is addressed correctly, one shan't answer in a direct fashion.
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Old 07-10-06, 12:37 AM   #3
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I agree with Sir Funkychicken.
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Presumably when you have spent 7+ years in tertiary education and then years more in on the job training you believe you've earned a title. Oddly enough specialists are called 'Mr'.

It makes more sense than calling someone Lord such and such just because their father was a lord. Or the queen - I mean what's up with that.
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I work at the University of Virginia, founded by Thomas Jefferson. He didn't believe in such titles, and to this day students don't refer to professors as "Dr." In fact, Jefferson thought people should be lifelong learners and didn't want to distribute degrees--a concept which didn't last.
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Because they're pompous bastards.

I'm on a first name basis w/ my chiropractor, vetrinarian and oncologist even in the office. Matter of fact, when I first met my oncologist he walks in the exam room and asid "Hi, my name is Tony" Of course with a last name like Magadalinski, Tony is so much less cumbersome
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But then why don't you refer to Dr. Death as Jack?
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But then why don't you refer to Dr. Death as Jack?
Because I've never met the man for him to have occasion to ask me to call him "Jack". And as with all persons of title... Doctors, clergy, judges etc. I acknowlege their title out of curtosey unless instructed to do otherwise, especially in the professional environment.

What you got against Dr. Jack?
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I agree, Im also troubled by some people who insist on having thier profession be part of thier name. To me it's a constant remimder that they think they are a level above everyone.
If you're out and not on call,not wearing your doctor's uniform, why can't you be referred as you, the human being, Mr. Jones.. ect.. why need the title?? and if we dont want descrimination then will we start naming everyone according to thier profession? Hi, I'm restaurant owner Karen.. wow.. does that sound silly!
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^^^

IMHO, it sounds VERY distinguished Resturant Owner Karen.
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IMHO, it sounds VERY distinguished Resturant Owner Karen.
sounds even sillier! but on a serious note, i would like to know why it is that we have to use thier titles! It's different in this country for some things for example.. you guys call a woman Mrs. or Miss depending weather she is married.. In Canada they are all Mrs. because they thought it was descrimination and quite franckly noone's business to know weather you got your self a hubby watching tv on the couch at home or not
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"I didn't spend years in Evil Medical School to be called Mr. Evil!"

Seriously, if someone has spend 4 years in pre-med, 4 in med school, and another 3-5 in residency, I'll call them anything the hell they want to be called. It's just unbelievable that someone could be in school for 11-13 years, and as someone who is switching careers to Emergency Nursing (having tasted just a fraction of their training) I really admire what they do.

As far as Professorship, sometimes the title and respect can be important to their effectiveness in my opinion, and sometimes they just get off on it.

Oh yeah, and +1 on the life-long learning bit. Especially in medicine.
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If you're not sure call them Ms. My wife kept her own name (I insisted upon it) and she is a Ms not a Mrs.


Also, IMO you address people by their title out of respect. If you have no respect for them don't address them by their title. QED.
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The 'position' deserves inital respect, lasting respect must be earned.
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I agree but under who's criteria do we decide if one profession is more worthy of a title then an other?
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I agree, Im also troubled by some people who insist on having thier profession be part of thier name. !
It is part of your name. You can call me Joe, or Dr. Smith (not actually), but not Mr Smith, because that would be inaccurate.
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still dont get it... why do I call you Dr.Smith and not Mr. Smith and you dont dont me "restaurant owner Jones?"
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In Canada they are all Mrs.
I don't think that is true...I think most people would use Ms by default.
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still dont get it... why do I call you Dr.Smith and not Mr. Smith and you dont dont me "restaurant owner Jones?"
I don't know why there aren't specific addresses for every profession or trade. However, if you are going to use Mr. Mrs, Ms, Father (for priests) etc,, then calling someone with a doctorate Dr. is the consistent practise.
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still dont get it... why do I call you Dr.Smith and not Mr. Smith and you dont dont me "restaurant owner Jones?"

Most doctors don't work as doctors if you know what I mean. Most doctors are PHDs not MDs.
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It is part of your name. You can call me Joe, or Dr. Smith (not actually), but not Mr Smith, because that would be inaccurate.
OMG, you're not a Mister? You mean I have spent all this time thinking you were a guy and having semi intelligent conversation with you, when you are actually a gal and I could have been hitting on you? I must take my life at once.
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These are traditions that vary over time. Just as a factoid, the traditional use of "Mrs." is in combination with the husband's name, so in previous generations, one would never say "Mrs. Jane Jones", but rather "Mrs Henry Jones". And traditionally "Mister" was term of respect for surgeons and certain naval ranks.

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I don't think that is true...I think most people would use Ms by default.
OK is this arguing for the sake of arguing? theyareall called "madame"( which is Mrs.) I know Im canadian
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If someone has a Masters degree, should you call them 'Master'?

I bet there's a Doctor forum out there with a reoccuring post about people not calling them Dr.
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If someone has a Masters degree, should you call them 'Master'?

I bet there's a Doctor forum out there with a reoccuring post about people not calling them Dr.
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