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Old 07-17-06, 05:48 PM   #1
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The enemy of good is better.

Is it? When is good, good enough? If by trying to make something that is already good better, can it be ruined?
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Old 07-17-06, 06:32 PM   #2
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Yes, Double Stuffed Oreos... Orignal is great and put the damn partially hydrogenated vegatable oil back in the friggin things!
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great answer, Stacey! I completely agree!
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no, by definition, "better" is better than good, but "best" is, well, best..
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What if the 'improvements' actually take away from the quality of the product?

'New' Coke.... bleckh
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if it's not broken.... dont fix it.
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Old 07-17-06, 07:18 PM   #7
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Reminds me of a short story I read in European Literature. A man was married to a very beautiful and kind woman. She was perfect in every way expect for a noticeble birthmark on her face. The man pursuaded his wife to have it removed to make her more attractive. The surgery scar got infected and she died. Does anyone remember this story?
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Old 07-17-06, 07:24 PM   #8
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New just means new, not better. Hence, new coke sucked and the classic was the best. And yes, you can ruin something by trying to make it better if you only have one of them and you don't measure properly.
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Old 07-17-06, 08:24 PM   #9
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For something to be "best" there needs to be at least three of something to be compared. Or so say the grammaticists.

But see what I mean? Oreos! They were just fine, but they tinkered with them and messed them up. And "new and improved". Well, if they're improved, why was I eating the original? Why were they selling them?
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Old 07-17-06, 09:50 PM   #10
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Old 07-17-06, 10:06 PM   #11
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if it's not broken.... dont fix it.
if it's not broken, fix the definition.


(then improve it )
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Reminds me of a short story I read in European Literature. A man was married to a very beautiful and kind woman. She was perfect in every way expect for a noticeble birthmark on her face. The man pursuaded his wife to have it removed to make her more attractive. The surgery scar got infected and she died. Does anyone remember this story?
I remember it. I don't remember the name right now, but I'll ask my wife. She's really good at remembering those types of things. Kind of reeks of the Portrait of Dorian Grey type of thing.
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Reminds me of a short story I read in European Literature. A man was married to a very beautiful and kind woman. She was perfect in every way expect for a noticeble birthmark on her face. The man pursuaded his wife to have it removed to make her more attractive. The surgery scar got infected and she died. Does anyone remember this story?
Oh yeah, that's the story where the guy finds a monkey paw and makes a wish...eh, sorry, wrong story

..sound like a story to be written by Edgar Allen Poe.
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Old 07-18-06, 06:43 AM   #14
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Reminds me of a short story I read in European Literature. A man was married to a very beautiful and kind woman. She was perfect in every way expect for a noticeble birthmark on her face. The man pursuaded his wife to have it removed to make her more attractive. The surgery scar got infected and she died. Does anyone remember this story?
Yea I remember that story. There is also the true story about a Florida man about 3 or 5 years ago who went for a penis enlargment operation and died on the operating table from some complications to the surgery. Imagine that one.
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Old 07-18-06, 06:47 AM   #15
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^^^ Coulda been worse. He coulda lived, had gangrene set in and had to amputate!
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If it's because you aren't satisfied with a lesser good in your pursuit of the greater, or even greatest good, than yes, because satisfaction with a lesser good is an evil when there is a greater good to be pursued. And good is always the enemy of evil. Wait a minute, I don't think you were looking for an Augustinian answer. Oh well, I'm always looking for an opportunity to say that.
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Old 07-18-06, 07:22 AM   #17
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if it's not broken.... dont fix it.
I dunno. I'm kinda glad I don't have to ride on wodden rims and solid rubber tires. I'm also glad that we have better roads which I can use to drive to the next city in 2 hours where it would have taken me all day 100 years ago. I'm sure a **** glad that if I find out that I have cancer, I have a fighting chance of getting through it alive. None of these things are exactly fixing something that was broken. We have been getting along just fine for 300+ thousand years.

I, for one, am very glad that there are people out there fixing things that aren't broken.

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Old 07-18-06, 07:31 AM   #18
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enemy of good is automation.

How much more crap do we have that we really don't need due to automation?

Dishwasher....just wash teh dishes as you make them, or at the end of the night...sheesh...no need to queue up an entire weeks worth of dishes to justify the water/electrical costs then.

Then we have other such fun devices like the electric carving knife....it's called learning to properly sharpen a knife. When I get done whetstone sharpening the straightedge knife on thanksgiving day, that thing cuts through that turkey like it was made of butter....takes me all of 20mins to get the edge right....the same knife my mom neglects to sharpen for an entire year...so I have to re-grind the edge, and then sharpen it....sharpening knives is so simple...why mess with the best?

and on a side rant....belt drive bicycles...WTF? nothing beats a C-H-A-I-N....remember that.
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Reminds me of a short story I read in European Literature. A man was married to a very beautiful and kind woman. She was perfect in every way expect for a noticeble birthmark on her face. The man pursuaded his wife to have it removed to make her more attractive. The surgery scar got infected and she died. Does anyone remember this story?
My wife thinks it's [I]The Birth Mark[I] by Nathaniel Hawthorne.
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I think good enough will continue to be good enough. Until its not. Then I'll change the definition. Unless the definition involves a birthmark or gangrene, both of which I will avoid until at least after I finish all this reading I need to do. And right after I wash the dishes by hand, because the dishwasher is on the blink, I'll have a classic coke and Oreos. But if the dishwasher isn't really broke, it won't need to be fixed, right? So I'll be able to go ahead and marry the beautiful woman waiting for the penis enlargement surgery. No, wait! I mean.....what was I talking about?
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