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Old 08-08-06, 09:20 AM   #1
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Animal in the wall

For 2 days now, in the morning and night, I hear clawing and running around in the wall. The wall is only about 8 inches wide since one side belongs to the living room and the room I am in now. It only stays at the very end, and it wont try running down it for some reason. What animal could it be? I think maybe a squirrel or rat, but it sometimes sounds as if it has wings and is trying to fly around, but probably not. It cant be a possum though. That thing is pretty annoying and it makes me wonder how many other animals, or dead, that are in the walls. That's not good. Id like to borrow an infared scanning thing and see on a screen what could be there. What other animals could it be?
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Smash in the wall in and find out, or better yet take a utility knife and cut out a nice square piece. As long as its drywall fixing it wouldn't be that hard. Besides, the very fact an animal is in there is indicative of some damaged wood that needs to be replaced.
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Look around your house. Check for holes under the eves.

A humane way to get rid of it is to get some thick (strong) wire mesh and make a tunnel on the outside of the house over the hole(s), sticking out maybe 6-9 inches. Just big enough for the animal to crawl through. It acts sort of like a lobster trap. The animal can only go one way. Does that make any sense?

After you stop hearing the noises, board of the hole.

Also, get into your attic and sprinkle a copule boxes of moth balls around. Animals hate the smell of camphor. That's how we got rid of the skunk living beneath our front porch.
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Smash in the wall in and find out, or better yet take a utility knife and cut out a nice square piece. As long as its drywall fixing it wouldn't be that hard. Besides, the very fact an animal is in there is indicative of some damaged wood that needs to be replaced.
You sure don't want what ever it is to die in there. DAMHIKT
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You sure don't want what ever it is to die in there.
I agree, but I never did imply that it should be killed in any case, I just said remove a piece of drywall to figure out why an animal could get in there to begin with. It sounds to me like water damage is a possibility here, and that ain't good. I've done a good bit of carpentry, and my best advise it to figure out whats wrong before it gets worse.
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Sounds like a bat. We get those in the walls and they will live there for up to 5 days. Then they die and there really isn't any smell from it. They are scratching around trying to climb up which they cannot do. This is the time of year when we get them in the house as the heat of summer is sending them to look for new cooler places to sleep. But yes check for open areas around eves and attic vents. They can crawl through 1/2 in cracks.
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My sister suggested it was a bat. Well on very top part of our house (attic level) there are these vents that an animal could easily squeeze through. Maybe a bat (I dont even know if we have bats around here) thought it was a cave and went it. Are there spots on the attic, which drop off between the walls?

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Are there spots on the attic, which drop off between the walls?
There can be holes for wires and pipes on the top plates. I would go up and check. If there are, and the bat thing is probably what ended up happening, I would go up there and figure out how it came in to begin with. The soffit and roof vents that ventilate your roof to prevent damage can present a sufficiently large hole for rodents to climb through. If you have such vents, I would cover them with a patch of screen.

One thing I should take the time to point out is that in the majority of modern homes, the attic is filled with fiberglass wool insulation. Fiberglass wool is basically giant asbestos. As such it will mess up your lungs, but you can protect yourself with a simple dust mask. I encourage anyone who exposes themselves to fiberglass wool to wear a mask.
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i just recently discovered that sounds I assumed to be animals are actually caused by wind in my home. Our couches back up to a wall that seperates the den from the kitchen. The vent for the stove is right above the couch and is vented through the roof with flexible ducting. When the wind blows just right, it comes back down the vent and caused the flexi duct to rattle around a bit, sounds just like something scurrying about, but I have been up there and never found a nest, etc. Perhaps your noise can be explained by something like this.

Either that or the ghost of Jimmy Hoffa is in your wall.
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Phobias are for irrational fears. Fear of junk ripping badgers is perfectly rational. Those things are nasty.
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Here I made an audio two nights ago of it on my mp3. I hope this works. http://audio.isg.si/audiox/?q=node/5008 Its 20 secs long. Youll hear it around 10 and 15 secs in.
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I hate to tell you, sounds like you have a rat. They will come in looking for relief from the heat, and if they like the digs, get their friends to help them move in. If it does die in the wall, it'll only stink to high heaven for about a week.
God the things you learn living in the sticks.

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I just listened to the audio. GET OUT OF THE HOUSE NOW!!!! Whatever that unGodly noise is, it is not of this world and you will surely die if you stay there.




J/K Didn't hear a thing, so if you die in some ghastly mannner, it is not my fault.
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Hmmm... we had rats one year in my university residence in Canada, but they weren't quite so well hidden as the creatures you're pursuing. My floor was built behind the college chapel's organ loft, where the rats lived. They walked in between rooms through holes drilled for the heating system and liked to hide behind the massive radiators we had in our rooms. While writing a paper, you could hear them scratching away. They never caused any problems, but it was funny one day to open my door and see an 8-inch long rat (not including the tail) scurrying down the hallway and slamming into the floorboards at the end of the hall when he couldn't get traction on the linoleum floor to stop.

Anyway, hope you figure out what it is and find some way to get it out.
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I think it left haha.
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I think it left haha.
Silence before the storm. It is sharpening it's fangs and watching your every move to optimize the carnage potential when it finally launches it's attack.
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I had this happend to me too, and I thought maybe there were mouse, just to find a bat flying around my living room one day!
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Well, it knows you're alone. It'll start calling you from inside the house and taunting you. Plus your house is built on an old indian burial ground. If I were you, I'd burn the house down and blame the cats.
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Well, it knows you're alone. It'll start calling you from inside the house and taunting you. Plus your house is built on an old indian burial ground. If I were you, I'd burn the house down and blame the cats.
+1, might even tell the cats their next to burn for letting the thing in in the first place.
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Hmmm... we had rats one year in my university residence in Canada, but they weren't quite so well hidden as the creatures you're pursuing. My floor was built behind the college chapel's organ loft, where the rats lived. They walked in between rooms through holes drilled for the heating system and liked to hide behind the massive radiators we had in our rooms. While writing a paper, you could hear them scratching away. They never caused any problems, but it was funny one day to open my door and see an 8-inch long rat (not including the tail) scurrying down the hallway and slamming into the floorboards at the end of the hall when he couldn't get traction on the linoleum floor to stop.
Mmmmm....when I first moved here, I moved into a housing co-op that consisted mostly of the crunchy-hippie variety. They were good people, however, most were vegans and VERY against killing any sort of being. Fair enough. We had a compost pile out back that the neighborhood rats LOVED to visit. And then winter came. Rats moved in, even though they didn't sign a lease. I though this was grounds for eviction, nay, extermination. These suckers were, I s*** you not, 10-14 inches long.

I can't believe you could write your papers with the scritching and scratching. /shudder. I moved out of that place, and I'm pretty sure they let the rats pick up my lease.
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I grew up in a farmhouse. Rats used to steal our christmas cookies every year and have little parties behind the woodpile in the basement. These rats were big enough that the cats - and usually the dogs - would rather run away than chase one down. Once, they ate my brother. These weren't the type you could trap, you had to go into the basement with a 12-gauge and a box of buckshot, then pray that they weren't better armed than you were.

Ok, I made some of that up, but it was still pretty bad.
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Farm Rule # 327: If it's downstairs its a rat, if it's upstairs, its a bat. If its everywhere, then it's the cat.

If you don't have a cat, and you live in a flat, then it could be raccoons, or monkeys.Or worse.
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