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Old 08-09-06, 09:03 PM   #1
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I traded in my MINI Cooper :(

I was getting worried about the lack of a warranty with my Cooper and had been contemplating trading it in for a new one. As I gave it more thought I realized that perhaps I should go with something more practical. The MINI required premium gas and I'd end up with a higher payment with a new one should I started looking around for something else.

My eye first fell on the Toyota Yaris largely because of it's 40mpg claims. I went down to the Toyota dealer to check it out and was quickly disappointed. The thing comes standard with absolutely nothing, no power windows/locks, abs brakes, cd player etc. As you add things on to the car it ends up about the same price as a Corolla. Plus when test driving the car it really didn't feel solid, not at all what I was used to with the MINI. I absolutely loved my Cooper and there was no way I was going to take such a drop down in quality so I kept looking.

And on to the VW dealer. Which happens to be where I purchased a new 2006 Jetta 2.5. I was a little disappointed at first because both the GLI and the GTI seemed so nice but they also both require premium gas again and would have costed more in a monthly payment. I was sad to lose the little Cooper but the Jetta has many of the same features plus a few new ones and is definitely a solid car. These mkVs are so much nicer than the previous model Jetta! So I got an awesome new car with and extended warranty and was able to keep my same payments. Plus my wife loves it as well and it's an automatic so she'll feel more comfortable driving it around.

Pics to come tomorrow after I wash it again. The so called "detailing" the dealer did wasn't very impressive. One thing about the whole experience I should mention is that I'm much more impressed with the local Toyota (Fort Myers Toyota) dealership. My wife and I bought a Scion Xa from them when they first came out and earlier this year traded that in for a 2006 Rav4. We told them what we wanted in a payment and in a car and they did for us pronto. Very limited negotiating necessary with them. On the other hand at VW we told them the maximum payment we were interested in and they showed us all these cars that in the end they were not able to give us for the payment we wanted. They totally wasted our time on cars they knew wouldn't work out for us but everyone there was very nice. I'll have to try out the service center to make a real comparison in service.
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Old 08-09-06, 09:08 PM   #2
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Or, you could save yourself even more money by buying a nearly trouble free V8 with 100,000 or so miles on it for a grand or two like I did.
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Old 08-09-06, 09:22 PM   #3
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My parents had a Jetta once. The insurance payments were a killer. After all, it's a "sports car." Yeah, a 57-horsepower Diesel-burning 4-door sports car, riiiiiiiiight... They got rid of it.
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Old 08-09-06, 09:31 PM   #4
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I worked at a VW/Audi/Porsche dealer once. I would never buy that crap. And yes, the sales tactics suck too. I had a Landcruiser, a RAV4, and a Civic before I moved to Australia. Now I'm very happy to be back in the US, and driving an xB. Your VW will be good to you, but sell it to some sucker before the 90k mark.
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Cool, my sister has a jetta
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Nice pick up, but why didn't you just buy an extended warranty? That way, you'd still have the Mini, it'd still be under warranty and your payments would end soon.
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Nice pick up, but why didn't you just buy an extended warranty? That way, you'd still have the Mini, it'd still be under warranty and your payments would end soon.
It gets more expensive to purchase an extended warranty as the car gets older and the mileage goes up. I didn't buy the MINI brand new so I didn't have the option. Now I have a car with an extended warranty for the same payment as the MINI.
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the 06 RAV4 is nice, my mom has one, but i dont like when you are driving and you hit the gas and like it doesnt go. So you floor it and it starts to hawl ass.lol. But you could have gotten a Camry, my dad has an 06 camry it's very nice, 34mpg on 87 octane gas, and thats a mix of city and highway driving with a/c on all the time. he even pulls a trailor and gets the same mileage. but yea VW are nice german cars that are solid. Cant wait to see the pics
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The new Toyota FJ's are very nice. I don't know how much MPG they get but they only cost 21,000 for a 4x4, every nice deal IMO.
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While I think the Camry is a great car the style is not for me. I prefer the look of the Jetta.

I know what you mean about the acceleration in the Rav4, it's either in granny gear or turbo!
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The new Toyota FJ's are very nice. I don't know how much MPG they get but they only cost 21,000 for a 4x4, every nice deal IMO.
The FJ Cruiser looks nice and we contemplated getting one of those when we bought the Rav4 but they only get 18/22 mpg with the 2wd and 17/21 with the 4wd while the Rav4 gets 24/30. And we don't need two SUVs so a sedan or coupe was more of what I was looking for to replace the Cooper.
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While I think the Camry is a great car the style is not for me. I prefer the look of the Jetta.

I know what you mean about the acceleration in the Rav4, it's either in granny gear or turbo!
i hear ya, i prefer my 1989 Accord over all or my brothers 1990 bmw 535i. The RAV4 is fun to drive, corners well, accept the stability controls kicks in like almost every corner
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i hear ya, i prefer my 1989 Accord over all or my brothers 1990 bmw 535i.
You make Hanz and Franz (and Aaahhhnold) cry like little girlie men!

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I love my 2003 Element. I can roll my bikes right into the back, carry tons of stuff, sweep and mop it out. Plus, it's paid for. I wish the gearing was a bit more on the economical side; I don't need to catch rubber in the first 4 gears.

My dad is in sore need of a new car but he wants something small and from Chrysler. I just saw the Caliber and it might be the car for him. The 1.8L intro model is cheap, which would suit my dad just fine.
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I'm still diggin my Miata. I think you should have checked out a nice Civic coupe or an RSX or something. The VWs seem to wear out before they should.
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i dont get it?
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My friend owns a Jetta (06) - he likes it, but as soon as the lease is up he is getting something else. He tells me that car feels "cheep" - but then he is used to driving BMW's and Infinities!

I am thinking about buying next year the new rabbit!
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My friend owns a Jetta (06) - he likes it, but as soon as the lease is up he is getting something else. He tells me that car feels "cheep" - but then he is used to driving BMW's and Infinities!

I am thinking about buying next year the new rabbit!
I don't think the car feels cheap at all, just the opposite as it feels very solid. He may be referring to the interior and whatnot since it's not bmw quality and he is probably used to wood grain and crap and less plastic.
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Compare the interior on the Jetta to anything similar in price and it sure as hell ain't cheap!

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Jeeezzzusss.
So I washed and waxed my car today. The dealer did a pretty shotty job on the clean and my wife parked the car by some sprinkler heads which left some pretty nasty water spots. As I'm wiping the tire shine off I notice a nail in my tire in the friggin sidewall! The whole tire needed to be replaced.

I took the car to VW but they were out of the specific tire and recommended I try Sears. Sears did not stock that tire and recommended I try Tires Plus. Tire Plus sent me to Tire Kingdom and Tire Kingdom had a very similar tire with the same performance ratings but a different tread pattern. I had zero interest in having three of the same tires with one odd one but I did come up with the idea to swap the tire from the full size spare and get the new tire put on that. It's only a spare and I wouldn't ride around long on it anyways so it worked out. Unfortunately it cost me another $200 It's only been two days! I've gone 5 or more years without getting a nail in a tire or anything similar yet the second day I drive my new car with brand new tires I get an f'ing nail in the sidewall.

Well at least I had the money to get it replaced. I wonder if I can still get that tire insurance from VW?
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Weird. I traded my Jetta for a MINI last year. The Jetta was an OK car (2001 VR6) but I wasn't passionate about it. I love my MINI. I understand about the warranty, though.
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I sold my Mustang and got a Mini back in June. Best choice I ever made. While the manual for mine says 91 oct, I find it runs just fine on plus when the outside temps are lower, though the difference between plus and prem is only like a buck-ish more per tankful.

I find it to be extremely practical, so I'm always puzzled when someone trades or sells one for a "more practical" car. I'm getting 29mph in mixed driving, which I can't complain about. I got 16 under the same conditions with the Mustang, and that had to have premium, no two ways about it.

Hope you enjoy your new car.
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I sold my Mustang and got a Mini back in June. Best choice I ever made. While the manual for mine says 91 oct, I find it runs just fine on plus when the outside temps are lower, though the difference between plus and prem is only like a buck-ish more per tankful.

I find it to be extremely practical, so I'm always puzzled when someone trades or sells one for a "more practical" car. I'm getting 29mph in mixed driving, which I can't complain about. I got 16 under the same conditions with the Mustang, and that had to have premium, no two ways about it.

Hope you enjoy your new car.
When I tried using a lower octane I started to get a knocking from the engine, when I went back to 93 it disappeared. I would say you traded in your mustang for a more practical car. For me I was never able to get more than 26 for any period of time from the MINI, I just kept reverting to my old driving habits. The standard transmission was just too much fun.
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When I tried using a lower octane I started to get a knocking from the engine, when I went back to 93 it disappeared. I would say you traded in your mustang for a more practical car. For me I was never able to get more than 26 for any period of time from the MINI, I just kept reverting to my old driving habits. The standard transmission was just too much fun.
lol, well yes, that's one issue. Fortunately (probably due to old age) I don't really drive "spiritedly" very much anymore.

Odd that you were getting knocking though, as the computer is supposed to adjust the timing when knock is detected. Maybe you had a regular Mini and not the S? I think the regular Mini has higher compression, so it would be more sensitive to octane. The S is supercharged, so it has less compression (to take advantage of the supercharger) so as long as I stay out of boost, it's not as picky about gas.

Could depend on other things too I guess, like the fuel & temps in your area.

Well, enjoy your new car!
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