Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Foo Off-Topic chit chat with no general subject.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-12-06, 07:45 PM   #1
Ted Danson
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Ted Danson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Wisconsin
Bikes:
Posts: 377
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
ONE MORE THING... Q about mods or admins

ok so we now know that the admin can look at our passwords but not after they have to do alot of unencrypting and use with different softwares and that jazz and its just not worth the time for a little laugh.

but now if they did just have a button right next the the red reply one that said look at this persons password. what do you guys thing would be some funny of embarassing ones

Last edited by Ted Danson; 08-13-06 at 10:54 AM.
Ted Danson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-06, 07:50 PM   #2
EJ123
'05 NUEser
 
EJ123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 3,370
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)


No They cant.
(I think you blew your change of becomming a mod though lol)
EJ123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-06, 07:51 PM   #3
KingTermite 
On my TARDIScycle!
 
KingTermite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Eastside Seattlite Termite Mound
Bikes: Trek 520, Trek Navigator 300, Peugeot Versailles PE10DE
Posts: 3,924
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by EJ123


No They cant.
(I think you blew your change of becomming a mod though lol)
Blew his change?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by coffeecake View Post
- it's pretty well established that Hitler was an *******.
KingTermite is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-06, 07:57 PM   #4
EJ123
'05 NUEser
 
EJ123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 3,370
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Yep change.
Chance*
EJ123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-06, 08:49 PM   #5
Ted Danson
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Ted Danson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Wisconsin
Bikes:
Posts: 377
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
hurray for ppl that also cant spell correctly!!! your just like mw!! **me**
Ted Danson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-06, 09:02 PM   #6
phantomcow2
la vache fantôme
 
phantomcow2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: NH
Bikes:
Posts: 6,266
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
As a mod, no I cannot. I don't believe admins can either. If that is comforting or not, there it is .
phantomcow2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-06, 09:18 PM   #7
khuon
DEADBEEF
 
khuon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Catching his breath alongside a road near Seattle, WA USA
Bikes: 1999 K2 OzM, 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte
Posts: 12,242
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Technically the admin might be able to see the password provided they have access at the OS or network level and can sniff the interface since passwords are submitted in cleartext. I also suppose they can run a ******* on the encrypted password stored in the database. A third method would be to attach a debugger to the running program and print the contents of the memory location where the password is stored either temporarily or permanently. But generally speaking, with most applications and operating systems, the passwords are encrypted and stored as such so it's typically not a trivial manner to see what others have chosen as a password.
__________________
1999 K2 OzM 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte
"Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send." -- Jon Postel, RFC1122
khuon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-06, 09:44 PM   #8
Siu Blue Wind
Flowers for mom
 
Siu Blue Wind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 10,950
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 58 Post(s)
ummmmmmmm. Speak English, Khuon.
Siu Blue Wind is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-06, 10:04 PM   #9
khuon
DEADBEEF
 
khuon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Catching his breath alongside a road near Seattle, WA USA
Bikes: 1999 K2 OzM, 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte
Posts: 12,242
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind
ummmmmmmm. Speak English, Khuon.
I think all the words I used are properly defined in the Oxford's English Dictionary.

But to put what I said another way: there's no easy method to view someone's password directly. Certainly I don't believe the software provides a built-in one.

But someone intimate enough with the details of the inner workings of the software, operating system, computer networking protocols and has the right access at those levels to the server which runs BikeForums can do it.
__________________
1999 K2 OzM 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte
"Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send." -- Jon Postel, RFC1122
khuon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-06, 10:13 PM   #10
Maelstrom 
Wood Licker
 
Maelstrom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Whistler,BC
Bikes: Transition Dirtbag, Kona Roast 2002 and specialized BMX
Posts: 16,885
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by khuon
Technically the admin might be able to see the password provided they have access at the OS or network level and can sniff the interface since passwords are submitted in cleartext. I also suppose they can run a ******* on the encrypted password stored in the database. A third method would be to attach a debugger to the running program and print the contents of the memory location where the password is stored either temporarily or permanently. But generally speaking, with most applications and operating systems, the passwords are encrypted and stored as such so it's typically not a trivial manner to see what others have chosen as a password.
But we don't. And in the end only joe has access to the raw db. Just as a matter of confidentiality I would never do it. Comes with the territory (since I am in fact a real admin outside of bf too)
Maelstrom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-06, 10:18 PM   #11
khuon
DEADBEEF
 
khuon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Catching his breath alongside a road near Seattle, WA USA
Bikes: 1999 K2 OzM, 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte
Posts: 12,242
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maelstrom
But we don't. And in the end only joe has access to the raw db. Just as a matter of confidentiality I would never do it. Comes with the territory (since I am in fact a real admin outside of bf too)
Sorry. I should have added that part. In general, in the world of computer and network administration, there are very few mitigating circumstances where sniffing or cracking passwords is ethically warranted. Also, most admins have better things to do with their time.
__________________
1999 K2 OzM 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte
"Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send." -- Jon Postel, RFC1122
khuon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-06, 05:54 AM   #12
MediaCreations 
Marathon Cyclist
 
MediaCreations's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Perth - Western Australia
Bikes: Road Bike / Mountain Bike
Posts: 1,763
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Mods can't see your passwords. However, we do have a file of your bank details and often withdraw members' savings if we're a little low for a Friday night out.

We have also created cyborg replicas of each member. We will eventually replace each member with their cyborg. Once the swap is complete you will all be free to cycle all day long while your cyborg takes over all your mundane life tasks. We figure it's a win - win situation.
__________________
MediaCreations is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-06, 10:04 AM   #13
monogodo
NFL Owner
 
monogodo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Irving Heritage District
Bikes: 7-Eleven Eddy Merckx, Vitus Futural, Catamount FRS, Colnago SL, SS MTB
Posts: 1,489
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
It depends on the board software. On another forum where I am a Senior Moderator, we used FuseTalk. I could look at a member's details and view their password. We've since switched to vBulletin, which does not allow me to view passwords, just as the Mods here have said.

Back when we used FuseTalk, we had a Senior Mod who abused his powers to access his ex-gf's PMs, as well as her new bf's PMs. When the abuse was discovered, he was stripped of his authority.
monogodo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-06, 10:53 AM   #14
Ted Danson
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Ted Danson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Wisconsin
Bikes:
Posts: 377
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
ok this is getting to technical for me now. read my first post agian
Ted Danson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-06, 05:32 PM   #15
lotek
Forum Admin
 
lotek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: n.w. superdrome
Bikes: 1 trek, serotta, rih, de Reus, Pogliaghi and finally a Zieleman! and got a DeRosa
Posts: 17,710
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
ok, who used "ASSHAT" as a password?
__________________
Sono più lento di quel che sembra.
Odio la gente, tutti.


Want to upgrade your membership? Click Here.
lotek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-06, 08:16 PM   #16
Ted Danson
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Ted Danson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Wisconsin
Bikes:
Posts: 377
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
who said it? whooo said it!?!?
Ted Danson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-06, 05:24 AM   #17
Stacey
Non Tribuo Anus Rodentum and off to the next adventure (RIP)
 
Stacey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Bikes:
Posts: 9,161
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Marty you peeked!
__________________
Stacey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-06, 05:28 AM   #18
phantomcow2
la vache fantôme
 
phantomcow2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: NH
Bikes:
Posts: 6,266
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I actually CNC milled replicas of everybody here, it is stored in the vault. Again, its a liability thing
phantomcow2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-06, 06:10 AM   #19
flyingscotsman
Nothing here to see!!!!!!
 
flyingscotsman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Charlotte
Bikes:
Posts: 487
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by MediaCreations
Mods can't see your passwords. However, we do have a file of your bank details and often withdraw members' savings if we're a little low for a Friday night out.

We have also created cyborg replicas of each member. We will eventually replace each member with their cyborg. Once the swap is complete you will all be free to cycle all day long while your cyborg takes over all your mundane life tasks. We figure it's a win - win situation.
Don't joke it may already be happening!!!! malfunction malfunction malf
flyingscotsman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-06, 06:58 AM   #20
khuon
DEADBEEF
 
khuon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Catching his breath alongside a road near Seattle, WA USA
Bikes: 1999 K2 OzM, 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte
Posts: 12,242
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by MediaCreations
Mods can't see your passwords. However, we do have a file of your bank details and often withdraw members' savings if we're a little low for a Friday night out.

We have also created cyborg replicas of each member. We will eventually replace each member with their cyborg. Once the swap is complete you will all be free to cycle all day long while your cyborg takes over all your mundane life tasks. We figure it's a win - win situation.
Wasn't that the synopsis for a Michael Crichton novel?
__________________
1999 K2 OzM 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte
"Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send." -- Jon Postel, RFC1122
khuon is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:42 PM.