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Old 09-23-06, 05:11 PM   #26
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I get trained on preventing sexual harassment every year. Every year. Every freaking year. Unwanted sexual advances, regardless of the gender of either individual is sexual harassment.

Halle Barry, or not Halle Barry it would not be worth it to me on several levels.
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Yes.. my dear, it would be harassment if it was a 'man' who was coming on so strong.. The only difference (I believe) -is that men may tend to have a higher ''tolarence'' -for ''harassment'' if it is coming from an 'attractive' other of the opposite sex, -it is more ''acceptable''.. If I was your work colleague and I was to ask you what your favourite colour was.. -and then the next week I come to show you 95 percent of my sexy 'dark blue' thong? .. -Yes, that would be almost certainly 'harassment' for 'most' women.. but if a stunning woman does this for a male colleague -(or fellow worker) ? -haha, I bet the HR dept. would 'laugh' and ask; ''so.. what's your problem, exactly -?'' ..yeah, it's 'funny' coz it is true :P


..it's 'only' harassment if men do it.
No, not just men, think of the Jennie Craig case. Well, there are different criteria and standards for men & women. The only thing that's written in policy & laws is "repeated" and "unwanted" sexual attention. However, the acts that needs to be committed to cross that line is different for men & women. Pretty much anything short of tackling me and raping me in middle of the office is fine with me (depending upon the kinds of free drinks they'er buying me afterwards). I also know some chics who are like me and flirt & play non-stop.

But the majority of people in office environments are much more guarded. Someone posted here about him asking a girl, "How are you?" and she freaked out and called the cops... heh, heh....

You just have to be aware and attentive to other's standards. We tend to judge ourselves not on our actions but our intentions, yet judge others based upon their actions and not their intentions. So in the end, to keep yourself on the safe side of the law, be aware of what constitutes "unwanted" for each person. It's about what they consider unwanted, not what YOU think. Again, if you're a hot guy or chic that's date-worthy, you can get away with a lot more..

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..it's 'only' harassment if men do it.
Nope, gender of either party does not matter.
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...it's 'only' harassment if men do it.
it could be the other way around if the man is happily married and the woman won't give up and starts to resort to trying to sabotage his marriage or just being really aggressive.

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Nope, gender of either party does not matter.
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Seen two people at my job have the same issue. Dating, then they got into a disagreement. Woman calls it sexual harrassment when she broke it off. He lost his managment job making $80,000 per year because she got pissed when he wouldn't take her to Hawaii.
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Anyone have any studies comparing the numbers of women vs. men marrying their bosses?
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Be careful of painting this as harrassment. If you can defend yourself, this ain't harrassment. [And if it is, you're a guy and nobody cares, sorry.] It might be temptation or more likely a none-too-subtle attempt at power projection. If old memory serves, her husband is a chain saw with all the human warmth of a bison. . .and as big as a barn door.

So the choice is yours and DO let us know how it goes.
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it's only haressment on both sex or either sex if it was an innapropriate unwelcome idea.. you have welcome the idea or even considerated the idea...is it haressment if you're asking us if it's worth getting caught??? if you are not intesrested... you didnt have to listen to her telling you all about her private life, you could right then and there tell her that she crossed the bounderies of work and personnal discussions like these are not welcome to you, you somehow let that happend and yep, it opens the door to unwanted other ideas... it's always wrong, no matter how beautiful but it only becomes haressment if you didnt welcome the idea... I somehow, maybe Im wrong but was under the impression that you wouldnt mind her as a sexual partner... so nope, if you consider sleeping with her, it's not haressment.

wha? -? ..Imagine coming to work every week simply to enjoy the soothing hum of the heating vents, free access to the internet, a chance to practice your violin and guitar alone, and to have a little solitude for studying and homeworks.. (and to eat + pay rent..). Imagine that your work was your sanctuary ..and then Mrs. Halle Berry starts working there and decides your life is a little 'too' dull and tranquel and... . .
Now, 'you' didn't go asking God every morning to send you a stunningly curvy, cute & exciting little buddle, -who happens to be MARRIED! No, you didn't ask your God for that.. Yeah, so it is not 'exactly' something you'de ''welcome'' -? ..Do junkies 'welcome' their downward spiral and 'need' for a fix ? ..No, it just happens. okay.
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So are her advances unwelcomed or not? I can't figure it out from what you've said.
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Unwanted = harassment.
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wha? -? ..Imagine coming to work every week simply to enjoy the soothing hum of the heating vents, free access to the internet, a chance to practice your violin and guitar alone, and to have a little solitude for studying and homeworks.. (and to eat + pay rent..). Imagine that your work was your sanctuary ..and then Mrs. Halle Berry starts working there and decides your life is a little 'too' dull and tranquel and... . .
Now, 'you' didn't go asking God every morning to send you a stunningly curvy, cute & exciting little buddle, -who happens to be MARRIED! No, you didn't ask your God for that.. Yeah, so it is not 'exactly' something you'de ''welcome'' -? ..Do junkies 'welcome' their downward spiral and 'need' for a fix ? ..No, it just happens. okay.
Dude, you need to get some. All of this really goes back to male-female sexual interactions and the mating game. Humans are mammals and like most other species, it's up to the male to make the approach and for the female to select her mate. As such, the numbers and rates of sexual-harrassments cases initiated by women are much higher than men. That's just the way it is, get over it. You can't separate your instincts and intuition from the feelings & motivation that arises. However, you do have a choice in how you respond and act. Heck, you can raise yourself up the dating ladder so that YOU are more worthy than her...

BTW - married chics are way easier than single ones...
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So are her advances unwelcomed or not? I can't figure it out from what you've said.
..welcome to the shell shocked, battle scarred territory that 'was' my mind..
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...and oh, by the way, if a third party is offended by what is happening between these two, that also can be sexual harassment. (...every freaking year!!)
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So are her advances unwelcomed or not? I can't figure it out from what you've said.
exactly... glad Im not the only one who is very confused on weather he fight his urge to sleeps with her or waether it annoys him... I still cant make it out and wouldnt be so quick to be so forward to call that haressment, and something tells me that he doesnt have problem staying in control of situations or hates losing control and haressment is when you say no and have lost control over something you do NOT want or welcome
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...and oh, by the way, if a third party is offended by what is happening between these two, that also can be sexual harassment. (...every freaking year!!)
^^ wow, crazy huh? .. -(Sounds like 'some ppl' really need to get out and get laid..)
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...and oh, by the way, if a third party is offended by what is happening between these two, that also can be sexual harassment. (...every freaking year!!)

Ha ha!! Do you guys have posters hanging all over the work place in just the right places? We do! And I'm one of the few females that work in the warehouse.
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LOL, yeah, sure does. I believe those people are the EEOC, Equal Employment Oportunity Committee.
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exactly... glad Im not the only one who is very confused on weather he fight his urge to sleeps with her or waether it annoys him... I still cant make it out and wouldnt be so quick to be so forward to call that haressment, and something tells me that he doesnt have problem staying in control of situations or hates losing control and haressment is when you [...] have lost control over something you do NOT want or welcome

Yeah.. I think you're on to something.
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exactly... glad Im not the only one who is very confused on weather he fight his urge to sleeps with her or waether it annoys him... I still cant make it out and wouldnt be so quick to be so forward to call that haressment, and something tells me that he doesnt have problem staying in control of situations or hates losing control and haressment is when you say no and have lost control over something you do NOT want or welcome
Yeah, I don't get what he's upset about. What is she doing that's throwing his universe into a spin so much? And I think part of the law is that he has to tell her to stop. And only if she continues would it be considered harrassment... Just hit it and get it over with, you'll feel better.
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And I think part of the law is that he has to tell her to stop. And only if she continues would it be considered harrassment...
Yeah, you get one strike. (every freaking year!!!!!!!!!! Argggggg)
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Yeah.. I think you're on to something.
have you lost control of what's in your pants or lost the opportunity to work withought being sexually arressed? Im serious..
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have you lost control of what's in your pants or lost the opportunity to work withought being sexually arressed? Im serious..

I think it's both.
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And I think part of the law is that he has to tell her to stop
that's exactly what Im questionning here... if it got that far that he knows all her personnal life, it wasnt a work ethic situation to start with... Im not sure this complaint is legit more then it is to stir some controversy...
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