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Old 09-27-06, 10:57 AM   #1
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Answer me this! (The price of performance)

So I'm browsing my favourite online vendour, Probikekit. (noutice that I've adoupted the spelling of their natiounality, The United Kingdoum, which counsists ouf putting an U after every O.)

Ok, enough of that silliness. So I'm looking on there, and thinking about getting a water bottle cage. I check out the Campy Record Carbon cage, since it fascinates me that a $96 watter bottle cage even exists. That's right, it's $96.56 - that's ninety siz dollars and fifty six cents, for a watter bottle cage. Granted, it weighs 18 grams, so I guess that's impressive or something.

I then notice that they have the Chorus cage, too. It's a super bargain at only $58.17! Woo hoo! Wait though, there's got to be a catch, right? Well, the Chorus cage weighs a hefty 29 grams. Man, I can't haul around that much weight! I mean, evan at 400 watts, it'll still take me at least another .00000003 seconds to scream up the local hills! Suddenly, the Record is making sense.

However, judgement gets the best of me and I decide to check out the rest of the cages they have. I do a double take when I realize they have a plastic (that's right, plain old plastic, no carbon involved) cage available. I mean, that thing's gotta be a worthless pile of crap, right? Well, it only costs $1.62, so I check it out.

Guess what? It only weighs 20 grams! That's right folks, a cage costing $1.62 weighs only two grams more than a cage costing $96.56. On top of that, I've heard rumors (gasp!) that the Record cage actually weighs 19 grams.

Moral of the story? Well, let me ask you this - is 1 gram of savings worth $95? To put it more effectively, would you spend 59 times as much on a water bottle cage, if it saved you 1 gram over a cheaper one?

Now back to your regularly scheduled foo. . . .
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Old 09-27-06, 11:00 AM   #2
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but...but...plastic will break in a crash. oh, wait, carbon does too. that's a rip off!!
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Old 09-27-06, 11:04 AM   #3
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I fill my bottles with Water Light. Tastes great and less filling.
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Old 09-27-06, 11:04 AM   #4
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I would consider it if I were using all the other Record componentry. As things stand, my bike has the DuraAce gruppo, and I would feel a bit funny putting on Record bottle cages even if they were given to me for free.
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Old 09-27-06, 11:51 AM   #5
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Give me good old aluminum cages any day of the week. I've got a dual bottle cage on my Gazelle that's actually rather heavy when you consider it consists of 2 (!) aluminum bottle cages PLUS the parts to attach the two together.

There's a lighter version that I'll probably get this spring.
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Old 09-27-06, 01:11 PM   #6
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Nope, but it does look good when you stand around in your lycra at Starbucks.

Also, it's cheaper than actual penis enlargement.
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Old 09-27-06, 01:13 PM   #7
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save your self some dough and just lose a pound or two. Its much cheaper....
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Old 09-27-06, 01:28 PM   #8
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save your self some dough and just lose a pound or two. Its much cheaper....
Welcome to the vain segment of cycling. Its all deeper then the botle cage, its the matching team outfit, the head gear, the bike, the legs, the stories. For the guy/girl (I know a lot of these) who spend $5000 on their bike, $100 is nothing. They coun't grams like calories and even the tire that goes on the rim has to pass hours of shop and internet searching to cut off even that .nth of a gram. 13 lbs is the lightest bike I have ever seen, I think that is pretty much as low as it can go without helium in the tires...!
Its a fad, its the bling on the bling, but aluminum is so much better. I mean I never have the same size bottle in the cage and bending it to fit the big or small bottle is normal for me. Sure I break them but at $4 I can afford to.
I totally agree and I should mention out loud in the next lineup when someone is showing off their carbon fiber shoe lace ties that I managed to drop 200 grams on the way over by taking a leak.
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Old 09-27-06, 01:31 PM   #9
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Nope, but it does look good when you stand around in your lycra at Starbucks.

Also, it's cheaper than actual penis enlargement.

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Old 09-27-06, 03:32 PM   #10
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I fill my bottles with Water Light. Tastes great and less filling.
Me too, I climb a lot faster since I switched from H2O to the much lighter and more refreshing HO.
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Old 09-27-06, 03:40 PM   #11
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Me too, I climb a lot faster since I switched from H2O to the much lighter and more refreshing HO.
I've done ya one better, I carry dehydrated water.....just add water to rehydrate!
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Old 09-27-06, 04:54 PM   #12
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I've done ya one better, I carry dehydrated water.....just add water to rehydrate!
LOL

foolish! it's not always about price to performance. at a certain point, it becomes like jewelry. completely irrelevant, yet sought after and expensive. carbon bottle cages are just jewelry.

one benefit i see of losing weight for those who truly care about weight is that it provides a double whammy--you save money on parts to make your bike lighter and you save money on food cuz you eat less!

really the only way i can respect carbon bottle cages is if utilized by someone with an all around nice bike AND who couldn't safely lose weight without dropping below safe BMI... otherwise it's approaches my perception of large people wearing speedos


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For all the people that responded seriously, I must comment that this post was written tongue in foot. . . . errr, foot in cheek . . . . well, you know.

Anyways, I'd totally get one of the Record bottle holders if I had some swank Italian bike with the full Record kit. However, that will never ever happen, so instead I make fun of it.
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I've done ya one better, I carry dehydrated water.....just add water to rehydrate!
Do you have the kind you can just spit in, and it makes a gallon?
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Welcome to the vain segment of cycling. Its all deeper then the botle cage, its the matching team outfit, the head gear, the bike, the legs, the stories. For the guy/girl (I know a lot of these) who spend $5000 on their bike, $100 is nothing. They coun't grams like calories and even the tire that goes on the rim has to pass hours of shop and internet searching to cut off even that .nth of a gram. 13 lbs is the lightest bike I have ever seen, I think that is pretty much as low as it can go without helium in the tires...!
Its a fad, its the bling on the bling, but aluminum is so much better. I mean I never have the same size bottle in the cage and bending it to fit the big or small bottle is normal for me. Sure I break them but at $4 I can afford to.
I totally agree and I should mention out loud in the next lineup when someone is showing off their carbon fiber shoe lace ties that I managed to drop 200 grams on the way over by taking a leak.
I will admit, I spent alot on my road bike, but I love biking, and I since i'm still single and can't afford a ferrari, i bought a really nice frame.BUT, When it comes down to grams, i don't see all the fuss. I can totally understand someone wanting quality and appreciating it enough to pay for it (espescialy a carbon frame) but those prices for cages were just off the hook. I don't know, I'm the type of guy who wheres cut off BDU's to mtb and maybe underarmor to road ride( that clashes...horrably) I never understood keeping up with the jones'. I ride for me, thats it, if someone wants to come along for the ride, hey, great..
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