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    How come it's so expensive just to shave?

    Just paid $8.21 for a package of 4 cartridges of the Mach Turbo III blades. Opening the package I find these cartridges made of plastic and light-weight metal. Why so expensive? It seems it shouldn't cost very much to produce.

    What happened to the days of the old west when you would pay .15 cent and have barber actually do the work for you?



    Maybe I should just grow a beard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by georgiaboy
    Just paid $8.21 for a package of 4 cartidges of the Mach Turbo III blades. Opening the package I find these cartidges made of plastic and light-weight metal. Why so expensive? It seems it shouldn't cost very much to produce.
    Profits me boy, Profits. That is why they give you a free razor so you will be suckered into buying their expensive blades. FWIW I use an electric razor during the week and typically only shave every other day.

    What happened to the days of the old west when you would pay .15 cent and have barber actually do the work for you?
    yep and the average pay for a cowpoke was probably 25 cents a day...that is why they only got a shave once a month when they went into town

    I also use an old straight razor and shaving soap from a mug when I really want to clean up

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    Uh-Oh....wait until Catatonic gets to this thread....youz gonna get some shave lessons!!
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    Dude, www.classicshaving.com

    Go buy a double edge razor (aka safety razor), and un-learn the bad habits cartridge shaving allows you to pull off. It may be easier to get cut, but once you get used to it, it's far cheaper, and far more comfortable. A 10-pack of Merkur blades is under $5 there. That's 20 shaving edges, since there is an edge on each side of the blade, so there is quite a value there.

    And go to Target, towards the cosmetics section....around there will be a Men's spa area. Check out Proraso. Buy the brush, some soap or Creme (both will lather well), and if you get cream, go buy a basic mug or bowl for use in making lather. Oh, and get their after shave balm....it's alcohol free, so it won't irritate your skin, or cause discomfort in direct sunlight.

    the brush and proper cream/soap (aerosol can stuff is crap), are the single largest factors in shave comfort. The brush makes the lather, pushes the lather under the hairs, and exfoliates the skin, while the cream lubricates, and in the case of the Proraso cream, also provides a nice skin-soothing effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by georgiaboy
    Just paid $8.21 for a package of 4 cartidges of the Mach Turbo III blades. Opening the package I find these cartidges made of plastic and light-weight metal. Why so expensive? It seems it shouldn't cost very much to produce.
    Maybe I should just grow a beard?
    If you shave your legs as well, the blades wear out even faster and you end up replacing the blade one or twice a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catatonic
    Dude, www.classicshaving.com

    Go buy a double edge razor (aka safety razor), and un-learn the bad habits cartridge shaving allows you to pull off. It may be easier to get cut, but once you get used to it, it's far cheaper, and far more comfortable. A 10-pack of Merkur blades is under $5 there. That's 20 shaving edges, since there is an edge on each side of the blade, so there is quite a value there.

    And go to Target, towards the cosmetics section....around there will be a Men's spa area. Check out Proraso. Buy the brush, some soap or Creme (both will lather well), and if you get cream, go buy a basic mug or bowl for use in making lather. Oh, and get their after shave balm....it's alcohol free, so it won't irritate your skin, or cause discomfort in direct sunlight.

    the brush and proper cream/soap (aerosol can stuff is crap), are the single largest factors in shave comfort. The brush makes the lather, pushes the lather under the hairs, and exfoliates the skin, while the cream lubricates, and in the case of the Proraso cream, also provides a nice skin-soothing effect.
    Thanks, Can razors be returned? Will check it out...
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    Quote Originally Posted by catatonic
    Dude, www.classicshaving.com

    Go buy a double edge razor (aka safety razor), and un-learn the bad habits cartridge shaving allows you to pull off. It may be easier to get cut, but once you get used to it, it's far cheaper, and far more comfortable. A 10-pack of Merkur blades is under $5 there. That's 20 shaving edges, since there is an edge on each side of the blade, so there is quite a value there.

    And go to Target, towards the cosmetics section....around there will be a Men's spa area. Check out Proraso. Buy the brush, some soap or Creme (both will lather well), and if you get cream, go buy a basic mug or bowl for use in making lather. Oh, and get their after shave balm....it's alcohol free, so it won't irritate your skin, or cause discomfort in direct sunlight.

    the brush and proper cream/soap (aerosol can stuff is crap), are the single largest factors in shave comfort. The brush makes the lather, pushes the lather under the hairs, and exfoliates the skin, while the cream lubricates, and in the case of the Proraso cream, also provides a nice skin-soothing effect.

    How cool is this!!!
    I use to shave with the safety razor and double edge blades, "Man O Man" some 30 years ago and just kind of went along the mainstream, switched and started using the crap that is being sold now.

    Gonna put an order in right now. Big Thank-You

    Wow just kind of forgot about how well and what a close shave these gave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catatonic
    +1 Thanks for that link

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    Quote Originally Posted by catatonic
    Dude, www.classicshaving.com

    Go buy a double edge razor (aka safety razor), and un-learn the bad habits cartridge shaving allows you to pull off.
    Some of us don't have an hour to shave before work/school everyday ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by georgiaboy

    Maybe I should just grow a beard?
    You should grow a beard, but don't forget to trim the thing from time to time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catatonic
    +1

    You just got me hooked.... now the question safety or straight edge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht
    You should grow a beard, but don't forget to trim the thing from time to time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catatonic
    Dude, www.classicshaving.com

    Go buy a double edge razor (aka safety razor), and un-learn the bad habits cartridge shaving allows you to pull off. It may be easier to get cut, but once you get used to it, it's far cheaper, and far more comfortable. A 10-pack of Merkur blades is under $5 there. That's 20 shaving edges, since there is an edge on each side of the blade, so there is quite a value there.

    And go to Target, towards the cosmetics section....around there will be a Men's spa area. Check out Proraso. Buy the brush, some soap or Creme (both will lather well), and if you get cream, go buy a basic mug or bowl for use in making lather. Oh, and get their after shave balm....it's alcohol free, so it won't irritate your skin, or cause discomfort in direct sunlight.

    the brush and proper cream/soap (aerosol can stuff is crap), are the single largest factors in shave comfort. The brush makes the lather, pushes the lather under the hairs, and exfoliates the skin, while the cream lubricates, and in the case of the Proraso cream, also provides a nice skin-soothing effect.
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    My dad would send me razors when he got bored with them (he's compulsive) so I had 3 Mach3's including a turbo I also had a 4 blade by some other brand and I kept finding it wasnt doing the job. Then when I moved to shaving my head too, it took even longer. I moved to disposable bic's and have been very very happy with them. You dont have to worry about losing them, they are light, and for me have done quite a good job. When I shaved my head I had to replace them more often, but for having a pretty course beard they lasted a long time.

    I'd love to learn how to use a straight razor though
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    Quote Originally Posted by georgiaboy
    Just paid $8.21 for a package of 4 cartidges of the Mach Turbo III blades. Opening the package I find these cartidges made of plastic and light-weight metal. Why so expensive? It seems it shouldn't cost very much to produce.

    What happened to the days of the old west when you would pay .15 cent and have barber actually do the work for you?



    Maybe I should just grow a beard?
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    I shave my head, face and neck every day. I go to Wally World and buy the Personna twin-blade pivot razors (Equivalent to Gillette Good News or Custom Plus) for $ 1.97 for a pack of ten. Target sells essentially the same item for $ 3.16 for a pack of ten. I use one razor per week and use either shave oil or Trader Joe's aloe vera shave gel. I used to use a high-end Panasonic wet/dry electric shaver, but that $ 105 shaver cannot do as good a job as the $ 0.20 razor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MillCreek
    I shave my head, face and neck every day. I go to Wally World and buy the Personna twin-blade pivot razors (Equivalent to Gillette Good News or Custom Plus) for $ 1.97 for a pack of ten. Target sells essentially the same item for $ 3.16 for a pack of ten. I use one razor per week and use either shave oil or Trader Joe's aloe vera shave gel. I used to use a high-end Panasonic wet/dry electric shaver, but that $ 105 shaver cannot do as good a job as the $ 0.20 razor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by georgiaboy
    Just paid $8.21 for a package of 4 cartidges of the Mach Turbo III blades. Opening the package I find these cartidges made of plastic and light-weight metal. Why so expensive? It seems it shouldn't cost very much to produce.

    What happened to the days of the old west when you would pay .15 cent and have barber actually do the work for you?



    Maybe I should just grow a beard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by georgiaboy
    Just paid $8.21 for a package of 4 cartidges of the Mach Turbo III blades. Opening the package I find these cartidges made of plastic and light-weight metal. Why so expensive? It seems it shouldn't cost very much to produce.

    What happened to the days of the old west when you would pay .15 cent and have barber actually do the work for you?
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    I'm still using a 30 year old single-blade, single-edge injector razor. It still works as good as new and I've never had better results with any multi-blade cartridge razor. I've also got a couple of old school double edge razors around for backup, and I use disposables occassionally when traveling.

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    Bah, it doesn't have to take an hour....I use a straight razor, and can shave in under 30mins...and those require very careful movements. If it bugs you so much, shave before bed.

    Just don't go for baby bottom smooth (BBS) the first few times, you have to learn the grain of your face to be effective with wetshaving.

    and a good forum for wetshaving: www.badgerandblade.com

    I'll slap you if you can't figure out who I am there, fo` shizzle.


    edit: here's some links to some pics of my straight shaving setup:

    My brush, cream, pre/post-shave cream, styptic pencil, splash and blam aftershaves. (all of those products can be found in either target, or a drugstore, with exception of the brush holder)...oh, and my razor (which also cannot be bought at Target....damn them)
    http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...gAnch=imgAnch5

    My bathroom counter of whisker slaughter, note the leather strop hanging from under the counter (for straight razors), and the white porcelain mug I use for making my lather. The bottle is for adding water to the lather, since I lose a lot of lather when I re-wet the brush:
    http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...gAnch=imgAnch1
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIGITAL39
    My dad would send me razors when he got bored with them (he's compulsive) so I had 3 Mach3's including a turbo I also had a 4 blade by some other brand and I kept finding it wasnt doing the job. Then when I moved to shaving my head too, it took even longer. I moved to disposable bic's and have been very very happy with them. You dont have to worry about losing them, they are light, and for me have done quite a good job. When I shaved my head I had to replace them more often, but for having a pretty course beard they lasted a long time.

    I'd love to learn how to use a straight razor though

    It's easy, just go find a nice used straight on ebay (NO blade damage allowed until you learn how to critque a blade edge...it must be perfectly smooth, no nicks in the photos)....avoid the "new" razors. Look for Soligen or shieffield steel, as they are both very high quality steel types, and indicitive of a good razor. Henckels, Dovo, Theirs-Isaard, Dubl Duck (p-r-i-c-e-y), philharmonica, Lakeside, Kain-Abel, Boker, and many others pu out great straight razors....well Dubl Duck and Philharmonica have stopped making razors, as have most of those brands, but a good straight can practically be an heirloom if maintained right.

    Once you get it, go to www.straightrazorplace.com, and find a honemeister to talk to aobut getting it sharpened. While you are there read up on everything they talk about on straight razors. Many of those folks are experts in straight razor crafting and maintenance.

    badger&blade (www.badger and blade.com) is another good place to read up some on straight razor shaving, but for the more technical maintenance issues, will often route you to straight razor place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HAMMER MAN
    How cool is this!!!
    I use to shave with the safety razor and double edge blades, "Man O Man" some 30 years ago and just kind of went along the mainstream, switched and started using the crap that is being sold now.

    Gonna put an order in right now. Big Thank-You

    Wow just kind of forgot about how well and what a close shave these gave.

    Oh, and if you want some awesome shave creams and stuff at a local store, look for a crabtree & evelyn (very large beauty product chain) near you. I have their Nomad shaving cream, and the smell is amazing. I'm about ready to get matching aftershave balm and soaps.
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