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Old 10-13-06, 01:46 PM   #1
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Way to find out if somebody has read email you've sent?

Is there a way to see if somebodyhas read and I mail I have sent?
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Old 10-13-06, 01:49 PM   #2
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Old 10-13-06, 01:50 PM   #3
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Stop writing to her, you're suppose to move on, remember????
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Old 10-13-06, 01:51 PM   #4
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Is there a way to see if somebodyhas read and I mail I have sent?
D'pends. If you are using Outlook and Exchange (which if I recall, you ain't), and the recipient is too, yes you can...but only if they respond to the prompt...which I never do. Another, sneakier way, if you have a web server available, is to send an html email with a 1 pixel gif included, and track access to that gif.

Do you all think email marketers don't know whether you have opened their emails or not? Ha!
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Old 10-13-06, 02:08 PM   #5
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sent her an ecard, if YOU MUST KNOW!
They will notify you to tell you when she opens it. But dont be surprise if she doesnt answer!
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Old 10-13-06, 02:13 PM   #6
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Yeah, it's not a standard thing; MS Exchange does it. And the prompt to actually send back the receipt is an option which its display is by default turned OFF. In other words, unless the person explicitly went and turned on the option to ask whether they want to send a read receipt, it's sent by default.

So, the short answer is no, unless you both are using Exchange.




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Old 10-13-06, 02:16 PM   #7
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Email receipts are pretty skeezy. If you're writing to you ex, don't write to your ex. If you're writing to someone else, treat them like an adult and drop the whole notice issue.
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(yes, Chipcom, I pretty much said just what you said.)
When talking to a 17 yr old, repetition is good.
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Email receipts are pretty skeezy. If you're writing to you ex, don't write to your ex. If you're writing to someone else, treat them like an adult and drop the whole notice issue.
OMG I so hate this on here when it says "such and such request receipt" gesh... I always feel like it means that I HAVE to answer! or like they are taking notes!
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there is a time and a place for it. Timely CYA can save your job.
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It has nothing to do with her, I think I am beggining the get over process. This week, I have done much better than I thought. Not having to be argued with over my opinion is nice, as well as the stress reduction.

I was told that if you read the emails spammers send you (the ones from the bank from across the world that want your updated information), they will know it and that the best way to avoid getting these emails is not open them..
These emails do not have the receipt either. I just wanted to know if there is truth in that
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Old 10-13-06, 02:58 PM   #12
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It is true that some spam has embedded images and what not to determine whether you open it. But it doesn't really matter. Many spammers are happy to spam away without regard for whether an account actually exists. Trying to fight spam by avoiding ever accidentally opening any is a hopeless cause. Better just to use good spam filters.
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Old 10-13-06, 03:00 PM   #13
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It has nothing to do with her, I think I am beggining the get over process. This week, I have done much better than I thought. Not having to be argued with over my opinion is nice, as well as the stress reduction.

I was told that if you read the emails spammers send you (the ones from the bank from across the world that want your updated information), they will know it and that the best way to avoid getting these emails is not open them..
These emails do not have the receipt either. I just wanted to know if there is truth in that
sure.... *wink *wink*
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Old 10-13-06, 03:05 PM   #14
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Return Receipts in Lotus (we use at work) go off whether you want them to or not (unless you just preview the e-mail instead of reading/opening it). I used to Return Receipt(RR) a lot of e-mails and would use it as a way of knowing when the recipient was at their desk, reading my message, thinking about me and the issues I brought up....in short it was an invitation to call them or walk over to discuss the problem.

A TON of people started to find that annoying. I don't blame them. Now I only RR when it has to do with a legal/personnell matter. Like Spuerdex...it's good for CYA, and CYA only.
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Old 10-13-06, 03:06 PM   #15
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sure.... *wink *wink*
The "Don't email me, don't talk to me in person, don't contact me in any way" Does not inspire me to write emails .

I did however probably piss her off because I emailed her anyways, asking about a ride that the mother of the household she is living in participates in.
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It has nothing to do with her, I think I am beggining the get over process. This week, I have done much better than I thought. Not having to be argued with over my opinion is nice, as well as the stress reduction.

I was told that if you read the emails spammers send you (the ones from the bank from across the world that want your updated information), they will know it and that the best way to avoid getting these emails is not open them..
These emails do not have the receipt either. I just wanted to know if there is truth in that
Like I already told you...email marketers can track if you open it, when you open it, what links you follow from the email, etc. Do what I do, set your email client to view messages in text-only format, not HTML or RTF.
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Go into your email program, look in the "sent" items folder for the email in question. Open the email and see if the words or letters show any wear. The more it is read, the more wear the letters will show.
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Another, sneakier way, if you have a web server available, is to send an html email with a 1 pixel gif included, and track access to that gif.
Thunderbird doesn't load email images that are hosted on a website, only ones that are embedded within the email. This way, the sender doesn't get a request to load the image, and they can't tell that you opened it.
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Another, sneakier way, if you have a web server available, is to send an html email with a 1 pixel gif included, and track access to that gif.
Thunderbird doesn't load email images that are hosted on a website, only ones that are embedded within the email. This way, the sender doesn't get a request to load the image, and they can't tell that you opened it.
Such is good to know, I use thunderbird. Thanks
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I was told that if you read the emails spammers send you (the ones from the bank from across the world that want your updated information), they will know it and that the best way to avoid getting these emails is not open them..
These emails do not have the receipt either. I just wanted to know if there is truth in that
As for emails, yeah, different email programs and servers interact differently. Stuff going into Outlook/OutlookExpress can actually have embedded code that executes in the simple process of just downloading the email to your computer. You don't even have to preview or open the email for this code to run. Check out the various hacking sites if you want to learn how to program this into emails.

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It has nothing to do with her, I think I am beggining the get over process. This week, I have done much better than I thought. Not having to be argued with over my opinion is nice, as well as the stress reduction.
Hang in there, the tonne of bricks isn't gonna land on you for another couple of weeks. I've found it's usually best to be bangin' some other chic by then...
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Ther'es a few ways. When sending an email you can request to be notified when the sender has read the e-mail. The reader can refuse or their mail client may not support it.

If you want to be a h4x0r
and you can embed an invisible image in the e-mail and then when it's viewed either have it do something or you can check the raw access logs

How do you think spammers do it
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Another, sneakier way, if you have a web server available, is to send an html email with a 1 pixel gif included, and track access to that gif.
Thunderbird doesn't load email images that are hosted on a website, only ones that are embedded within the email. This way, the sender doesn't get a request to load the image, and they can't tell that you opened it.
But you DO have the option to download the images...just sayin.
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You could always sneak into her apt and check her hard drive!
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D'pends. If you are using Outlook and Exchange (which if I recall, you ain't), and the recipient is too, yes you can...but only if they respond to the prompt...which I never do. Another, sneakier way, if you have a web server available, is to send an html email with a 1 pixel gif included, and track access to that gif.

Do you all think email marketers don't know whether you have opened their emails or not? Ha!
Not if you use Thunderbird as your client and config to block HTML and .gif without authorization from you in each case!
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Not if you use Thunderbird as your client and config to block HTML and .gif without authorization from you in each case!
You can do the same in Outlook or any decent mail client...but it's not the only way we can track you, comrade! Vee have our vays...like I know that you are sitting in front of your computer. Yes, big brother sees all, hears all, knows all. Be afwaid, vewy, vewy afwaid!

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