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Old 11-28-06, 06:19 PM   #1
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Is College Worth It?

So, I'm in college, and I don't like it too much, an am SERIOUSLY thinking of dropping out to hike or bike full time...so is college really worth it?
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Old 11-28-06, 06:22 PM   #2
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Many professions do not require a college degree so it depends on what type of career you're seeking and what you want out of life further down the road. But it's never too late to go back and earn that degree if you need one.

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Old 11-28-06, 06:23 PM   #3
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Yes it is! I'm going back to College at 46 and I wish I had gone when I was younger! Use Summer break to hike and bike and camp, enjoy the academic process, it's better than driving a truck!
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Old 11-28-06, 06:26 PM   #4
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Yes, do it!!! The really important thing I got out of it wasn't so much the book-knowledge and career preparation, but it was a lesson about life. How to run your life efficiency, like time-management, interpersonal communications, logistics, problem-solving and critical-thinking.
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I'm actually in sorta the same predicament right now. School is definitely not as glamorous as I had hoped and I have no idea what-so-ever what I want to do for a career. Both my parents went to college, but never had any jobs actually pertaining to their degrees. But they did say that just having a degree did help them to get jobs. So I do want to finish school, just no idea what I want to do afterwards.

I'd love to take some time off to go travel the world and figure out who I am, but you need money for that. And you need a job to make money. And I have no idea what kind of work I want to do. I certainly don't want to keep doing the crappy minimum wage jobs I've had over the summer.

One of my friends from back home, who is going to a local community college, is also thinking of dropping out. She and I and a few other friends are going to travel around the world and be professional bums, or so we say...
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Absolutely it is worth it. But the trick is finding something that really excites and interests you, and go into that... sometimes it takes a while to figure that out. I took a year off to work, and it helped me focus. Having a degree will help you get a job. (depending on what the job is)... but if you really want to build bikes, say and have a passion for that, then you need to go be an apprentice to a bike builder and learn that trade. you're going to have to learn the trade no matter what you want to do, so in a way you can't escape learning! AAAAHHH!
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Old 11-28-06, 06:33 PM   #7
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You like bikes so major in Mechinal Engineering. Yes colllege is the easiest (not only) place to learn it.
Good luck! I hated schoole from kindergarden through graduate school. But each year got better.
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I'm not trying to sound "high and mighty" over others who do not have degrees, but there is little chance you will ever have any kind of a job that makes enough money to satisfy your wants without a college degree.

Hiking of biking full-time, like any athlete career is not guaranteed.
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Old 11-28-06, 06:39 PM   #9
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I've been thinking about taking a semester or a year off, but I'm a little worried that once as I see "that the grass is greener out of school", I'll never return.


I'm not really worried about money, either... Straight out of highschool I was offered a basically guaranteed for life job at one of the local construction unions..

Last summer at my job as a bike mechanic, by boss tried to entice me to not go back to school and work full time year round...salary was very good.
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I have no college - but I own three companies, one is software. I was (and still do some) a software engineer - self trained. Paid for my kids to go to college though.

Those who do fine without college are those who are so busy accomplishing things that they can't slow down for college. That was me. But, if you think college is hard - it can be a lot harder getting a break (or making one) without college.

You might not be ready for college - and so it might make since to do something else till you are ready.
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Old 11-28-06, 06:45 PM   #11
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I think the most valuable thing I learned in college was learning about the person I was going to be. And if you've learned that you're not a college person, then maybe you've already learned the most valuable thing.
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Old 11-28-06, 06:48 PM   #12
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Some people have the brains and personality to do ok with school type work. Some need a push, like from parents or whatever. Some need time to grow up to realize certain realities. Whatever your decision, make sure its yours because you will be ultimately responsible for it.

Schoolwork requires effort like sports, like bike riding. Bike riding requires some discipline or else you would not have the base conditioning to do a 100 mile ride. Some riders do well in hills and others have to really work at it. Same for some subjects in school. So try to reflect on the lessons you have learned from bike riding and begin to apply them to school type work.
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So try to reflect on the lessons you have learned from bike riding and begin to apply them to school type work.
Always wear a helmet...how is that going to help me with my school work?
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I'd stay in school. I see friends of mine who dropped out and claimed they'd go back. I don't see it happening now 3-4 years later. I'm a semester and a half from my Master's degree. He may have a house right now, but I see my career going a lot further in the future.

As my dad said, work with your mind not your hands. You'll still have full function of those hands in 20years.
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Old 11-28-06, 06:57 PM   #15
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To get a good high paying job you'll need one of two things: A lot of experience in that field or a college education. Or both!

Before I used to think college was a waste of time as I learned very little "real world" experiences. But as I get older you see that it's not about the actual classes but moreso about being able to handle difficult situations in a high stress level environment. School teaches you important stuff but it really teaches you whether you can handle the "real world". And if you can't and school gets difficult, you have to teach yourself to focus and get through the tough times. By doing so you are learning a valuable lesson in self-worth, innner-strength and the ability to overcome. That's what the real world is about.

And for me, taking time off hurt me more than helped. I forgot everything before and it made it more difficult for me to pick it back up again. But that was me.

Good luck and stay in school!

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Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Househo..._United_States

The median personal income for a HS grad is $26,505, which jumps to $43,143 for college grads. That's $16,638 per year. Even if it takes a couple of years to pay off college debt, the typical college grad is going to end up making hundreds of thousands more than the typical HS grad. Now, this doesn't mean you'll make that much more if you go to college, but the numbers are in your favor for sure.

So you're going to make a lot more money, but that's just one piece of the puzzle. The more important, and probably more difficult thing, is to ask yourself what is going to make you happy? Is money going to make you happy, or is doing what you want to do with your life going to make you happy?

Now ask yourself this: What is your dream job? Is it possible for you to land that job without going to college? If not, then what is a few years of hard work compared to a lifetime of happiness? If so, then what are you waiting for? Go land your dream job right now and don't look back.
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YES!! stay in school and enjoy every minute of it.
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I have no college - but I own three companies, one is software. I was (and still do some) a software engineer - self trained. Paid for my kids to go to college though.

Those who do fine without college are those who are so busy accomplishing things that they can't slow down for college. That was me. But, if you think college is hard - it can be a lot harder getting a break (or making one) without college.

You might not be ready for college - and so it might make since to do something else till you are ready.
Listen to that part about getting a break. many employeers demand a college degree, not because they think their job requires anything more than SHOULD have been learned in High School, but because far too often what should have been learned in High School was not. The college degree gives employeers hope that the job applicant can at least stick to a goal without being forced. This applies all the way up the job ladder. When I was in Grad school there were several guys who had tons of experience and ability who had hit a ceiling in job advancement. No higher without the piece of paper. I can think of one who could have taught a couple of the courses better than the profs who were teaching them. In his case it was a combination of the piece of paper and filling in the gaps in his knowledge.

It is much easier to go to school now than later when you have a wife, childern and house to deal with.
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I never finished college and have been successful but it was A LOT OF HARD WORK! Many times when I am problem solving, trying to compose a simple memo or calculating future values I kick myself A LOT that I did not stay in school...I have to work HARDER and I have LESS TIME OFF because I have to WORK HARDER to succeed. Better to work HARDER now and enjoy the accomplishment. Got It!
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If you're burnt out, take a break for a quarter, but no more. It took me 6-years to get out of university because I'd take every other quarter off to work full-time to save funds. Also preferred a slightly more relaxed pace so I could PARTY!!!
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If you're burnt out, take a break for a quarter, but no more. It took me 6-years to get out of university because I'd take every other quarter off to work full-time to save funds. Also preferred a slightly more relaxed pace so I could PARTY!!!
LOL, yes, this was the plan I was on. seven years for me! I enjoyed every minute of it, class time and otherwise.
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I went to kollege and learnt up on stuff. It help me.
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If you can tolerate college and think you can get through it, than stick it out. It will probably make your life easier in the long run. If you are like me and can't stand it, than find some other skill and go with that. Everybody is different.

I don't think i will EVER go back to college. I am 37 years old. I didn't like it 20 years ago, and I don't think i would like it now.

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I'm looking for a low paid slacker to mow my lawn now, change my oil, and wipe my ass when I am old. So please drop out of college and spend the next 40 years talking about how you are just as smart as those college graduates who tell you when and where to show up for work. You'll whine about how life isn't fair and you deserve to make just as much as the guys that gutted out college. Well, that's the advice I'd give my son if he was pissing away his future.

I run in to 45 year old college drop outs all day - every day. Most have to work their ass off and and damn few actually own their own company and have the hot trophy wife. Most have a fat wife, a ****ty 1991 Chevy truck, 28 teeth, and anger issues. But as Judge Smells said in Caddyshack, "...the world needs ditch diggers too!"

Sorry for beating around the bush.

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Apparently college doesn't teach one humility.
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