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Old 12-15-06, 08:10 AM   #1
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High IQ link to being vegetarian

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6180753.stm

No wonder I've been getting closer and closer to vegetarian the last few years.
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If becoming a vegetarian would make my IQ drop to 106, I'll stick to my current diet patterns - thank you very much.
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So... a 5 point difference right at the statistical average is somehow enough to start tooting horns??

Somehow, I think the studies authors were vegitarians....
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So... a 5 point difference right at the statistical average is somehow enough to start tooting horns??

Somehow, I think the studies authors were vegitarians....
A very likely scenario, methinks.
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So... I become a vegitarian and loose 26 points? Right!
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So... I become a vegitarian and loose 26 points? Right!
I think their pool of test subjects were from rural Alabama.
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I think their pool of test subjects were from rural Alabama.
No way, those people will eat anything. They eat a pig from the oink all the way to the last curl in the tail.
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Actually, what they are reporting was the mean curve based off of the dataset. Most people actually float within 15 points +/- of 100. 130 and above is considered gifted due to the fact that they are at or above 2 standard deviations from the mean (A standard deviation is 15 points on the scale, either by the Wechxler or Stanford-Binet scales). Wechxler though is based on the percentile and Stanford is based on Mental age vs chronological referring to the level of learning and development. They are both norm referenced tests though rather than criterion tests.
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High IQ? Vegetarian?

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Actually, what they are reporting was the mean curve based off of the dataset. Most people actually float within 15 points +/- of 100. 130 and above is considered gifted due to the fact that they are at or above 2 standard deviations from the mean (A standard deviation is 15 points on the scale, either by the Wechxler or Stanford-Binet scales). Wechxler though is based on the percentile and Stanford is based on Mental age vs chronological referring to the level of learning and development. They are both norm referenced tests though rather than criterion tests.
My point exactly - though much better presented. A 5 point difference, essentially at the mean/norm is meaningless.
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My point exactly - though much better presented. A 5 point difference, essentially at the mean/norm is meaningless.
Agreed, because they didn't account for either Type I or Type II statistical variance error, either! Type I is a 5%`~ deviation and Type II is up to 50%~! This article truly is meaningless as to it's validity! The results would be entirely reproducible in a general population regardless of diet....provided sufficient caloric intake and vitamin intake was present to provide sufficient development to the Central Nervous System. The only time a dietary variance would cause sufficient skew in IQ or Wechxler percentile would be if the dietary deficiency was during a critical development period, such as earl;y childhood.
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Agreed, because they didn't account for either Type I or Type II statistical variance error, either! Type I is a 5%`~ deviation and Type II is up to 50%~! This article truly is meaningless as to it's validity! The results would be entirely reproducible in a general population regardless of diet....provided sufficient caloric intake and vitamin intake was present to provide sufficient development to the Central Nervous System. The only time a dietary variance would cause sufficient skew in IQ or Wechxler percentile would be if the dietary deficiency was during a critical development period, such as earl;y childhood.
What is all this statistical talk, your confusing me.

wheres my beef
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Means you can have beef!
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Thanks for the statistics lesson, gentleman.

Now...back on topic. It's meaningless....make fun of it!!! That's why I posted it.
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Thanks for the statistics lesson, gentleman.

Now...back on topic. It's meaningless....make fun of it!!! That's why I posted it.
I thought I was making fun of it! Psychology humor!
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If becoming a vegetarian would make my IQ drop to 106, I'll stick to my current diet patterns - thank you very much.
I think I'll continue to eat animals and have a much higher IQ than the mean vegetarians.
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Ahahahaha I eat plenty of **** and my IQ is 154. Though the resulting clump of cholesterol that breaks off my artery wall will drop that instantly to 0.
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<- high IQ and I will never stop eating creatures that bleed. I can't go a meal without thinking of those ugly cows being on my plate...hmmmm...breakfast.
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I think it is more common sense to have a healthy diet and lifestyle, vegetarian or not. Is having common sense a result of having a high IQ? Could be. I actually don't know what my IQ is or whether it is high or not.
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IQ is like SAT scores. you can pretty much tell people whatever you feel like. personally, my IQ is so high i don't want to embarass anyone so i'll keep it to myself.
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I thought I was making fun of it! Psychology humor!
Maybe I didn't realize it was a joke as I'm an engineer and math geek and understood everything you said.
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Maybe I didn't realize it was a joke as I'm an engineer and math geek and understood everything you said.
What can I say, I'm a Psychology and math geek as well!
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Ironically enough, from what I've seen on this forum, having an IQ or Wechxler score toward the gifted end is the average!
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I think it is more common sense to have a healthy diet and lifestyle, vegetarian or not. Is having common sense a result of having a high IQ? Could be. I actually don't know what my IQ is or whether it is high or not.
The current IQ test gives no consideration to lifestyle. Of course, you'd think that smart people would have healthy lifestyles, but anecdotal evidence shows otherwise. There are lots of pro cyclists who are reportedly, dumb as bricks. There are also plenty of sedentary blobs who are allegedly really smart (won't name names, for fear of getting the thread moved to P & R).

You seem like you'd fit right in in Lake Wobegon - where all the women are handsome, and all the children are above average (and I mean handsome in a flattering way)
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Vegetarian = high IQ?

What a load of crap. The animal rights nazis put so much benign stupid stuff out their to promote their dribble agenda it is hard to believe anything they say.

I went vegetarian for awhile. All it did was make me lose muscle mass, lose strength, and lose stamina. I remember when I came off the vegan fad, my dad fed me a big steak. I felt like I could have run right through the wall I was so full of energy and strength. My grades improved at school too.

Having tried both, I am convinced that man is omnivorous meant to eat meat, leafy vegetables, and grains. Oh, and did I say MEAT?
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