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    Advice Please: Rollers or Trainer

    EDIT - Thanks for all the advise Foo Rats! I ended up with a CycleOps Mag +. Will update after I have some miles on it to let you know how I like it.

    I am really depressed about the lack of saddle time lately, so have decided I would like to get a trainer or rollers. I have a budget of $200. II will be riding indoors after kids go to bed. Single story house, so neighbors not an issue, but do not want something really noisy. Any input is greatly appreciated.
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    Trainer or Rollers

    I asked they same questions a few months back in Road Cycling, see above.

    Bought a house, so I ended up with neither.

    But should be getting sorted out for next winter

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    If you don't concentrate, rollers can be extremely noisy when you go through the drywall!

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    Rollers work on bike handling skills and trainer stand works on Aerobic conditioning.

    A good trainer will be about $250.00 or so. There are mag trainers for $99 from Dick's Sporting Goods, but they are so noisy that your neighbors 3 miles away will complain. The best trainer is the Kurt Kinetic, it's a fluid trainer. If you go rollers, I'd look at this
    http://www.amazon.com/CycleOps-Rolle.../dp/B000BT8VPG

    If you go with the PVC rollers, you get a cr@ppy roller set up. Have padding beside you to avoid crash damage to you!
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    Vega, the room has brick walls, but the ceiling is sheetrock!

    Tom, I will probably end up with a trainer, though I like the idea of rollers for some reason. Thanks for your input.

    Thanks for the link to that thread, Flyingscotsman, lots of good info. I knew I could search, but really wanted the advice of FOO, as it will be honest and funny, not "search function is working" like the roadies did to you before offering TONS of advice.

    If anyone else has any ideas, toss em at me. Going to the LBS tomorrow. Have $100 in gift dollars and then I have talk the wife out of the rest. Should not be too hard, as she has a gym membership so she can workout with her girlfriends. I use the monthly fee she pays as leverage when I need bike money.
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    Did you watch the rollers video in the thread?

    I think for me I would prefer the trainer but I would also buy another wheelset for the trainer and repalce my computer

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingscotsman
    Did you watch the rollers video in the thread?

    I think for me I would prefer the trainer but I would also buy another wheelset for the trainer and repalce my computer
    Kurt also makes a rear wheel sensor computer that works well for the road too. Gives wattage, speed, elapsed time and miles as well as AVG and Peak and current speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingscotsman
    Did you watch the rollers video in the thread?

    I think for me I would prefer the trainer but I would also buy another wheelset for the trainer and repalce my computer
    tried to but my craptastic browser would not open it. Did not try too hard. I have cheap tires on my steel Falcon, will probably just keep it in the trainer and save the Trek for the road. No need to switch skewers etc. that way.
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    rollers are better in a lot of ways - but more of a PITA. Every bit as tough as an aerobic workout, and they really work on your handling skills. But wowsers - lose you concentration for a sec and BAM, you're sailing across the living room. I can clip into my trainer and watch a movie while I'm pedaling. Can't do that with rollers.
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    Trainer is also more compact, see how little space I need. By the way, put a carpet runner under it! Don't forget a front wheel riser either!






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    I'm going with a CycleOps Fluid 2, but not from an LBS unless it's on sale.

    Brick? At least you won't have to worry about repairing the walls.

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    Nice pics, Tom. Do you always ride your trainer with a tool bag under the saddle? Hey, never know when you might have a flat and need to make a repair away from the garage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegaVixen
    Nice pics, Tom. Do you always ride your trainer with a tool kit under the saddle? Hey, never know when you might have a flat and need to make a repair away from the garage.
    I also road race that bike on long, unsupported or minimal support races, and the bag is clamp mounted to the saddle.

    EDIT: It's just easier to leave the bag on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VegaVixen
    I'm going with a CycleOps Fluid 2, but not from an LBS unless it's on sale.

    Brick? At least you won't have to worry about repairing the walls.
    I was given $100 gift certificate to my LBS, so I am leaning towards a trainer. They are good people and my family have traded with them since I was a kid. They have the Fluid2 for $299, not sure if I want to spend that much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr
    I was given $100 gift certificate to my LBS, so I am leaning towards a trainer. They are good people and my family have traded with them since I was a kid. They have the Fluid2 for $299, not sure if I want to spend that much.
    Fluid2 or Kurt is about = in quality. I think you'd not be real happy with a magnetic or fan trainer, both are noisy and don't give as good a workout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr
    I was given $100 gift certificate to my LBS, so I am leaning towards a trainer. They are good people and my family have traded with them since I was a kid. They have the Fluid2 for $299, not sure if I want to spend that much.
    I just saw a CycleOps Fluid 2 for $330 at an LBS here. I'm gonna check around in the coming week, and if I can't find it cheaper here, and if I can't find it online cheaper (including shipping), I may just bite the bullet. I really like the CycleOps.

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    Jeff, I just got my roller belt in so my rollers will be usable this weekend. Come on by and see if you like the rollers deal. I say you buy a trainer so we can trade off every few weeks and get the best of both worlds.
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    Can I mention one other option? Take the money, get a winter beater and get out and ride.
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    I bought a nashbar fluid (no resistance settings) with a riser block this past week for just under $135 before shipping. I'm happy with it.
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    Nice input, at this late (or early?) hour, Cat. Would you wish to have variable resistance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipcom
    Can I mention one other option? Take the money, get a winter beater and get out and ride.
    I do that too!

    Catatonic,the Kurt's resistance goes up as the rpm does + has a magnetic drive on the fluid resistance unit, so no shaft or bearings to eventually develop a leak on the living room floor.
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    Uh, Tom. Why are you already awake? Or does Vega just not know how late/early it is? <very serious Vega look>

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegaVixen
    Uh, Tom. Why are you already awake? Or does Vega just not know how late/early it is? <very serious Vega look>
    It's early, but I got up early to see a snowy sunrise and get pics for my brother. He misses snow badly! (Lives in Cebu in the Philippines). We're finally getting snow!
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    Way-ul, the natural question poses itself: are you gonna post these beautiful pics? And will your bro' send you pics for posting from the far east? Maybe we need a sunrise thread? We can get some, maybe, from the DMZ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegaVixen
    Way-ul, the natural question poses itself: are you gonna post these beautiful pics? And will your bro' send you pics for posting from the far east? Maybe we need a sunrise thread? We can get some, maybe, from the DMZ?
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