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Old 02-15-07, 09:27 PM   #1
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!!!WARNING!!! Lock Bumping!! Very important!!

Please look at this vid for your family's safety.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hr23tpWX8lM
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Please dont outsmart the censor. That is a very expensive censor and every time one of you guys outsmart it it makes someone at the home office feel bad. We dont wanna do that. So dont cleverly disguise bad words.
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Old 02-15-07, 09:33 PM   #2
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I have the cat security system, if someone comes close to the door, all six of them surround the person.
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Cool, I'm gonna have to look into that. We rarely lock our doors as is, but it'd be nice not to have to worry about being locked out.
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Wow, good thing I have a double tumbler secure lock from Bestlock on both the knob and a deadbolt with a steel reinforced lagged frame around a steel door!
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I got a bat under my pillow. A vampire bat.
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Lock go bump. Gun may go bang.
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this sounds a lot like fearmongering to me...
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this sounds a lot like fearmongering to me...
Yeah, that guy was just trying to sell his expensive locks. If someone really wants to get into your house, it won't matter if you have good locks or not, they'll get in.
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Yeah, that guy was just trying to sell his expensive locks. If someone really wants to get into your house, it won't matter if you have good locks or not, they'll get in.
This hack can be applied to 90% of the bike locks sold now. It's not fear mongering but I have heard of few cases where someone owned a bike by using this technique.
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I got a bat under my pillow. A vampire bat.

Wouldn't that be BDG's pillow?
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Old 02-15-07, 10:42 PM   #11
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Yeah, that guy was just trying to sell his expensive locks. If someone really wants to get into your house, it won't matter if you have good locks or not, they'll get in.

I don't think he was trying to sell "his" locks. Schlage has been around for many years and they have great locks. Plus my grandma worked there so we always had Schlage.
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Schlage???

Pfffft. All you need is a set of Schlage Wafer Picks.

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Old 02-15-07, 10:46 PM   #13
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ummmm

I've already unlocked YOUR door Mich. Heh.
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You can put as many locks on your doors as you want. Fact remains that there's still a bunch of big holes in your walls called windows that are much easier to get into.
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Cool, I'm gonna have to look into that. We rarely lock our doors as is, but it'd be nice not to have to worry about being locked out.
Probably not a good idea. You may damage your lock, either making it easier for the next guy to try it or making it so your key doesn't open it.

I keep a spare key in my wallet.

I doubt this technique is anything new. The news just needed a sensational sounding story for a slow news day (the rest of the world calls those "good days"), so they went and interviewed a local locksmith about something they read about online.

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Dead on. If someone really wants into your house, a lock isn't going to stop them. The best bet is to make them feel conspicuous...lights, alarm, pets, etc. Actually, breaking windows seems to be something a lot of burglars shy away from to, but not all by far.
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I use the 'own crappy stuff' security system. Anybody that bumped my locks would just be disappointed.
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The best bet is to make them feel conspicuous...lights, alarm, pets, etc. Actually, breaking windows seems to be something a lot of burglars shy away from to, but not all by far.
Don't just put lights in the front either. Put them out back and on the side yards too. Most burglars won't enter from the front because it's too open. Through the back though, there's less chance of being seen. I recommend everyone watch "To Catch a Thief" on the Discovery Channel. Lot's of insight on that show.
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Anyone notice that the next U-Tube video was on making a bump key? We have big dogs in the house. I think that would be quite effective against an intruder.
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"But he says about the best thing you can do is spend a little more on better locks"



He's a bloody LOCKSMITH! Of COURSE he wants you to spend more on locks. What a bunch of CRAP! The first woman they were interviewing had a big glass panel in the door she was standing in front of. That's even EASIER to defeat than a bloody lock. Crash! The thief is in.

Even if you do get those better locks, what's to prevent him from walking 3 feet to the left and coming in a window instead of your door?

Sheesh!
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I have six locks on my front door, I only lock three of them. Let the intruder figure out which three they are today.
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There are tricks around any lock.

The basic rule is it's a real problem if the hack either:

a) requires no skill at all

b) has a rather high odds of working the first time (anthing over 20% is high....lockpicking is very hard, even for a skilled person)


That siad, the group who came up with bumpkeying is a hobbyist group who treats locks like jigsaw puzzles...they have well beyond a locksmith's level of knowledge on locks. that sid, anything they can do, would take us a lot more work to pull off.

Bumpkeying is pretty old, i remember seeing a video about this back in 2003.

As of late, there was also the "Tennis ball to open the car door trick" which only works in certain conditions....the foremost being a car that has a light action non-sidebar locking mechanism (Imports tend to use lighter weight locking mechanisms...go American cars go! /smartass). I don't know anything about the author beyond her video, but I would not be surprised if she was another hobbyist lock-******* like the guys that developed the bumpkey technique.

To sum it up: Yes, there are ways to crack a lock....there has to be, otherwise the key itself wouldn't work either.
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Funny how this stuff pops up. The front page of the Daily Oklahoman yesterday was an article on bump keys. And todays paper has an article that the state legislature is working on a bill to ban bump keys. Bump keys have been around for a long time but you'd think they were brand new.
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If the bad guy wants in, the bad guy is getting in. Locks help keep honest people honest.
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My g/f wakes up at the slightest sound . If someone breaks in wakes her up, she wakes me up ,I get pissed then lookout. It will be a bad day for the crook.
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If the bad guy wants in, the bad guy is getting in. Locks help keep honest people honest.

egg-zactly. Locks are just deterrents. Sometimes you need a minor deterrent, sometimes you need a more intimidating deterrent. This is why u-locks vary from cheap $9 doohickeys to special alloys that have been hardened, special locks, etc.
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