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Old 02-16-07, 12:22 PM   #1
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Prayer: Why, What, How?

I'm hoping we can keep this all civil like and not get it knocked over to P&R.

With all the things going on in our personal lives and the world around us, there seems to be an abundance of prayer going around.

Why is it people pray? Do they pray for something? Do they pray to someone/thing?

I 'pray' as a grounding mechanisim. To center and focus myself on doing what I need to do.

I 'pray' a modified version of the Serenity Prayer. I leave off the "God" part. If there is a God person, entity, or energy I don't pretend to know what is better than he, she, it, they do/es for the world and my role in it.

... and the wisdom to know the difference.


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Old 02-16-07, 12:26 PM   #2
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i don't pray, but i do find myself wishing for things. which is a bit odd, since i really have no idea to whom such a wish is supposed to reach. i guess it's more of a self dialog.
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Old 02-16-07, 12:28 PM   #3
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oh god...oh god.....ooooooohhhhh god.......oooooohhhhhh....goddddddd
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I used to be a VERY, VERY strong Christian. I mean to the point I studied the bible in greek and hebrew and loved a good debate with a Jehova's Witness or something.

But without making a big fuss about it, there are things that started to bother me about the church (not necessarily God) and I eventually dropped out altogether. I don't go to church or pray now and have been slowly working on what my philosophy is now....I'm still not sure.

Coming from the environment though, I still respect "true" Christians. They mean well. When I say "true" Christian, I mean those who truly believe and understand...not those who have been going to church since they were a kid because they went with their parents and really just sit in a pew for show.
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Old 02-16-07, 12:36 PM   #5
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I do pray sometimes. One of our 8th graders here at school rode the bus to school today, but is now missing. I have found myself sending up prayers for her.
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I do pray - pretty often (perhaps living in a third world country will do that for you...)

It helps keep me reminded of priorities. It is easy to get distracted.
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Old 02-16-07, 12:47 PM   #7
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well, when i was younger ( yeah one of my story) I had no reasons to pray to god or believe in anything but something awful happend and my mom and I were told to pray for this to stop, and I would of done anything, i went to church and asked for something in specific and it stopped. I really think my prayers were answered.
sometimes i pray again when i dont seem to get help anywhere else and Ive done anything myself and so far so good, I just talk and say what I need or where i need help or please fix this for me or help me through with this.. so far someone is listening.
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by the way, got to pass this allow. On the public transportation buses here - it is common that there will be prayers. Things like "May God be with us" and such not. I saw one once that was really funny.

"Only God knows if I will pass this way again." - and it was the regularly scheduled run...

I hope that they find the girl safe sound and quickly.
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Old 02-16-07, 12:54 PM   #9
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One time about five years ago I was truly down on my luck; I lost my job, had no medical insurance and a baby on the way. I bought a Powerball lottery ticket and went to my church with it. I knelt before the altar and prayed, lit a candle and even touched the corner of the lottery ticket to the hold water. I wasn't sure if it would help, but I felt that God would hear my prayer and help me.


It didn't work.

But today I have a great job, a wonderful family and I couldn't be happier. I think we can't pray for what we want, but rather what we need.
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some say you can pray for forgiveness all you want but what matters in the end is not all you've done wrong but all you've done right and how much love you gave.
Im going to get all sensitive on you stacey, but you give sooooo much we can even feel it even if it's online.
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It didn't work.
I was going to say that he doesn't answer the prayers of demons that I know of until I saw the end of your post.
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Old 02-16-07, 12:57 PM   #12
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I pray not daily, but usually when I feel like there is something I have to pray for. I prayed for someone a little while ago, and I prayed for the safety of my mother flying. Other than that.. Not really alot of praying.
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Old 02-16-07, 12:59 PM   #13
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I don't pray, but any time I crash biking or fall snowboarding, the first word out of my mouth is "Jesus! ". Then I hit the ground and the next words out of my mouth are "Oh f--k!"
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You have to pray to someone (which is God). I'm a Muslim, and I pray 5 times a day. Thats just the basic. But there is a prayer for everything. So most Muslims usually do more.

Prayer helps in alot of cases. I've had bouts of depression that ended when I visited the Mosque (which I try to do for atleast two of the five prayers), and I've had many prayers answered.

Different people, different experiences...It's what makes up the world...
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Old 02-16-07, 01:05 PM   #15
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It didn't work.
Don't know about that. Sounds rather like it did work, just not in the way you intended.
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I think there are different ways to pray. I went to a big outdoor festival here one year, and there was a performance by Babatunde Olatunji and his corps of drummers. He is an African performer and gives a very energetic performance, all percussion and dance, much of the music spiritual. Anyway, I recall one of his comments was that when the dancers who performed with him danced, it was a prayer lifted up to God. The dance itself was the prayer.

So I like to think of certain rituals as the prayers of daily living. And I like to think of those times when I'm out on a long ride, feeling the burn in my legs and the air filling my lungs, as a prayer of thanks for my life and my health and the things I love.
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Old 02-16-07, 01:15 PM   #17
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I pray to Azathoth who holds court at the Center of the Universe accompanied by the Mad Outer Gods, dancing around his throne to the bleeting of a demonic flute. I pray with the blood of the innocents. I ask the Daemon Sultan to grant me a larger peener and the ability to fly. X-ray vision would be cool, too.
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My work tends to be stressful often - I find express gratitude to someone helps me a lot. There is so much for me to be thankful and I don't think there are many who wouldn't cheerfully exchange places with me. In the middle of the challenges of the day, it is good to remember that I really am blessed.
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I pray to Azathoth who holds court at the Center of the Universe accompanied by the Mad Outer Gods, dancing around his throne to the bleeting of a demonic flute. I pray with the blood of the innocents. I ask the Daemon Sultan to grant me a larger peener and the ability to fly. X-ray vision would be cool, too.
Just pray that you get transformed into Calvin and go ask Bill Watterson to draw a sketch of you...
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Just pray that you get transformed into Calvin and go ask Bill Watterson to draw a sketch of you...
I already asked a while ago. Azathoth, The Great Daemon Sultan at the Center of the Universe said no.
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I would pray for that too - for pup to be turned into Calvin (I think he is nearly there) and for Watterson to start drawing Calvin and Hobbs - I sure miss that script!
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I already asked a while ago. Azathoth, The Great Daemon Sultan at the Center of the Universe said no.
Then it must be good for you...
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Old 02-16-07, 01:47 PM   #23
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I usually pray for parking spots. Sometimes I get one right away and sometimes I don't find one at all. By then, I'm praying to anyone and offering my soul and $5 for a parking spot.
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It is something I am sure we all do at some time in our life. Either you grew up being influenced by your family to do so or developed it on your own. That being said I have always believed there is a God and that there was his son Jesus Christ who came to live with us and show us tangible evidence of the existence of God. We humans are pretty arrogant to think we need emperical and tangible evidence to believe something so he gave it to us.

I grew up going to church and for several years veered away from church to work and put myself through college. Once I graduated I got back into church and my wife and I joined. We are very active in church and I was ordained a deacon this year. Very humbling experience ( I am still grounded however and understand I am a sinner and have impure thoughts). Don't let this response fool you.

I do realize that our only communication to our God is through prayer. We often wonder why, if, and for what reason some are answered and some not. I don't have an answer. I also wonder when standing over a victim's body such as that of a child why God let's these things happen. I am foolish to believe I have the answer. I try to understand but I too at times are so perplexed I just don't get it. Faith is just that.............no really understanding but knowing there is purpose and one day it will be revealed and all the glory. I personally can't wait to have all the answers.........don't worry, no suicide attempts here just to gain answers.

So to answer your question...............makes us feel good to place prayer in our daily lives and let go and see where God leads us. The biggest weight of my life was lifted when at a young 17 years of age I gave my life to God openly and felt like all would be fine. With that I take it one day at a time.

Prayers..............answered always, maybe just not how you would like at times.
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I'm not good at praying. Oh, I try sometimes. It's just that I am not sure if there is anyone up there listening.
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