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Old 02-18-07, 11:21 PM   #1
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How would you feel about this if it were you?

As some of you know, I stepped down from my position recently. That means I am trained in management but chose not to participate in it. I am used to getting things done right away, using my own judgement on decisions when they need to be taken care of, without waiting to be asked.

The past few days my boss gave me compliments on my job performance, noting my eagerness, sense of urgency and my being overzealous when taking care of a project. He said that he will also ask me to do special projects because I am not lazy and will get it done NOW. He in turn will do things for me like give me days off for my doctor appts over someone elses request (yet then I do have seniority) and also made allowances for my upcoming trip to Colorado.

I am starting to hear that my coworkers are squawking about how my requested days off are never turned down.

How would you feel about this and handle it with the others (who get along well with you otherwise)?
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Old 02-18-07, 11:24 PM   #2
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If you feel you really need to justify the days off you can always explain to them about what you went through. Personally I think that you should forget about it. They are acquaintances and coworkers correct? not friends. You don't owe anyone any explanation.

They just don't understand the situation, and probably don't care enough to ask you face to face. If it comes up or you get the opportunity to explain, go ahead. Otherwise let it roll off your shoulder.
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Your relationship with your coworkers is a "working relationship" not a friendship.
A friend would see that you are being rewarded for hard work, a coworker gets jealous because their lack of a work ethic (sub par to your scale) is not. (paying off for them that is)
Screw 'em, unless they can jeopardize your job.It's that simple.

One thing I couldn't stand when I was in management was people sticking their noses so far up someone elses ass that they could tell what he'she had for breakfast.
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Old 02-18-07, 11:26 PM   #4
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I took 1 week off last summer for the Michigander. Of all the other summer only hires, I had the most experience, and I was the only one who was allowed time off. Nobody got upset about it though.
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as far as your question about how I would fel if it were me
I'd not feel anything. My coworkers kno I'm an (insert orifice name here) and respect that.
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ignore it.

you don't have to justify anything to your co-workers.
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Old 02-18-07, 11:40 PM   #8
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as far as your question about how I would fel if it were me
I'd not feel anything. My coworkers kno I'm an (insert orifice name here) and respect that.
It'd probably annoy me or bother me when I first heard it, but lately I just let everything roll of my shoulders. Life's too short to worry about what others think of you. It's not even worth another second of thought.
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Put in a bunch of fake time off requests that you don't need and tell management to reject those ones. Then piss and moan about it to your co-workers.
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If they are having trouble with it, and assuming that mgmt isn't trying to keep this a secret, tell them to ask mgmt why you seem to be getting preferrential treatment. Mgmt's response should be to tell them that a) you have seniority and b) you are being rewarded for your workhorse can-do attitude, and your willingness to work extra hard to get the job done and done right. You don't owe coworkers an explanation, but you do have to work with them, and no doubt need to count on cooperation at times.

Having mgmt address this is perhaps the best way to go since hearing it from mgmt directly will help them to understand the connection between doing what it takes to get the job done on time, and barely doing enough to get it done eventually.

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Put in a bunch of fake time off requests that you don't need and tell management to reject those ones. Then piss and moan about it to your co-workers.
Hey, that's really clever! And those lazy sumsbaitches (the co-workers) would probably never catch on!
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As some of you know, I stepped down from my position recently. That means I am trained in management but chose not to participate in it. I am used to getting things done right away, using my own judgement on decisions when they need to be taken care of, without waiting to be asked.

The past few days my boss gave me compliments on my job performance, noting my eagerness, sense of urgency and my being overzealous when taking care of a project. He said that he will also ask me to do special projects because I am not lazy and will get it done NOW. He in turn will do things for me like give me days off for my doctor appts over someone elses request (yet then I do have seniority) and also made allowances for my upcoming trip to Colorado.

I am starting to hear that my coworkers are squawking about how my requested days off are never turned down.

How would you feel about this and handle it with the others (who get along well with you otherwise)?
As I am the Edge said, ignore it. As a former manager you should be aware that individual employees are treated individually, and that a manager doesn't have to justify their actions to their subordinates.
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Old 02-19-07, 12:12 AM   #13
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I have always gotten along very well with these people, teamwork is very important here. I just feel bad mainly because I feel like I am hurting them with their requests not being honored somehow. They know why I had to go to the doctor but one of the ladies had to reschedule her own dr appt because I got the day off and she didn't. That made me feel bad. But then again the only justification I had with that is that I have many years over her seniority wise.

They know that he asks me to do the special projects and they see me doing them. One person even asked me why I get them and she doesn't. I used the ruse that I was trained in it.

I just don't want any animosity. We are a pretty close group and I care about what they feel.
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Old 02-19-07, 12:22 AM   #14
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I have always gotten along very well with these people, teamwork is very important here. I just feel bad mainly because I feel like I am hurting them with their requests no being honored somehow. They know why I had to go to the doctor but one of the ladies had to reschedule her own dr appt because I got the day off and she didn't. That made me feel bad. But then again the only justification I had with that is that I have many years over her seniority wise.

They know that he asks me to do the special projects and they see me doing them. One person even asked me why I get them and she doesn't. I used the ruse that I was trained in it.

I just don't want any animosity. We are a pretty close group and I care about what they feel.
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Communication is the key. It sounds like everyone (you, coworkers, and management) needs to be on the same page with these issues. If you all sit down to discuss rules for time off, special projects, incentives, etc, then everyone will be on the same page and could make you a more efficient team.
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I've been a people manager for years. When team members have a similar amount of responsibility they will always "compare for fairness". Typically most workforces have the 80/20 rule in effect (meaning 20% of the people do 80% of the work) and a bell curve of workers: 20% on the bottom, 20% on the top and eveyone else falls in the middle in terms of the work that they do and the quality of it.

Your bosses job is to keep the top 20% happy and motivate or train the bottom 20% to be better. If you feel bad then when you ask your boss for time off which is always rewarded talk with him/her and let them know how you feel. Let them know there may be some animosity being created, they should be dealing with it, not you. If two people have reqested the same time off you could offer "if someone else has something pressing, let them take it". I however wouldn't worry about it. Your boss should be telling them if they want to earn privileges like yours, they should work like you.
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Communication is the key. It sounds like everyone (you, coworkers, and management) needs to be on the same page with these issues. If you all sit down to discuss rules for time off, special projects, incentives, etc, then everyone will be on the same page and could make you a more efficient team.
+1. On one hand, a manager doesn't have to justify anything to their staff. On the other hand, I think it's the sign of a good manager that everyone knows where they stand and what needs to happen for them to get what they want.
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Co-workers are peers, but keep in mind they are also competition when new positions come around. Keep a polite and professional working relationship with them, but do not mix work and friendships, no matter how tempting.
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Siu, what you should really do is take the 1st half of June off & come be a race director in WV. I'm looking for one!
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No need to justify as far as I see. If they have a complaint they should take it up with the BOSS and let him explain.
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I would just tell them it was payment for the things you do that they DON'T do. It is the job of a manager to reward behavior that they like - do the behavior, get the reward.

If you want to only do the minimum, expect minimum co-operation from the manager. Just make sure the grippers realize that the perks came at a price - and generally a price they are not willing to pay.

If they want the same, they should pay the price.

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You work hard and earn your privileges. If they want to work hard, they'll get them, too. If not, they'll get the normal stuff. You can explain that to them or just ignore it and let them figure it out on their own.

Since you're not management, it's not your problem to deal with, though your boss might wind up in an awkward position should someone make a formal complaint or (if unionized) file a grievance.

I'm more likely to give a little extra for my folks that work harder over the ones who "just do their job".
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