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View Poll Results: How Good Are You With Violence?
I Can Watch It, but it Bothers Me. 13 15.29%
I Can Watch Some, but Not if its Too Gruesome. 18 21.18%
I Cant Stand Watching Any of It. 9 10.59%
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Old 02-19-07, 10:06 PM   #1
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How Good Are You With Violence?

Joe and I went and saw Pans Labyrinth tonight. It was very interesting on many levels, but there is one problem I had throughout. It was the disturbing amount of violence that bothered me, that always seems to get to me in any movie. I seriously have a hard time watching it, even to the point of hiding my face when it comes up. I think I am in the minority when it comes to how sensitive I am. I know that its fictional and I know that its just a movie, but I still end up curled up in a fetal position, plugging my ears and covering my eyes when disgusting acts of deplorable violence comes up. Sometimes I look around the theatre, and I see everyone else, watching the movie, without even blinking an eye.

Am I the only one that has a hard time with this? Is our society so desensitized to violence that it doesn't bother the majority of people to sit through a movie like Saw 3 or Hostel? Do people even think twice about it? I have a hard time even watching it, let alone find entertainment value in it. Pans Labyrinth was amazing in many ways, but I know that I missed a lot in that movie, because I couldn't bring myself to witness the more disturbing parts.

I know I am a wimp, but its not something I feel to bad about. I am just curious if I'm the only one.

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Old 02-19-07, 10:20 PM   #2
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I'm desensitized to it. Unless it's real. Then I'm squeamish.
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I can handle violence. Not that I like it, but I've seen a lot when I was training.
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Movie or TV violence doesn't bother me. I'm also a big boxing and MMA fan and that doesn't bother me. Seeing and hearing about senseless violence on the news and things like that does bother me.
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I can handle violence.
In real life or just in movies?
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Am I the only one that has a hard time with this? Is our society so desensitized to violence that it doesn't bother the majority of people to sit through a movie like Saw 3 or Hostel? Do people even think twice about it?
I don't mind a bit of violence in my movies. I mean, stuff like Saw 3 or Hostel might be a little over the top, but I don't have any trouble with some blood and gore.

I don't think our society has been desensitized. I think this is the way civilized humans have always been. From the massive gladiatorial games of ancient Rome, to public beheadings and hangings of the middle ages. I think violence and death is something that most people want and need (even at a subconscious level) to witness. And because we've become so, ummm...humane?...in modern times, television and movies are the only place we will ever get our dose of death.

That's my theory anyway.
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Depends on the context. If it's HBO level, The Wire, or Deadwood, it does not bother me. Some of the current slasher movies, The Saw series for example, it's more than I care to see.
The evening news about the war, strangely it's more than I can handle and I've become desensitized.
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I don't mind a bit of violence in my movies. I mean, stuff like Saw 3 or Hostel might be a little over the top, but I don't have any trouble with some blood and gore.

I don't think our society has been desensitized. I think this is the way civilized humans have always been. From the massive gladiatorial games of ancient Rome, to public beheadings and hangings of the middle ages. I think violence and death is something that most people want and need (even at a subconscious level) to witness. And because we've become so, ummm...humane?...in modern times, television and movies are the only place we will ever get our dose of death.

That's my theory anyway.
That is an interesting theory. Violence is definitely no stranger to modern civilization. I do agree that some people want and even need it. Is this just fulfilling some instinctual hunter/gatherer urge to go out and collect food? I think it runs a bit more deep than that. I am just not sure why I have such a hard time with it and so many others don't.
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I don't watch movies that the main theme is gore and violence and the plot is just an excuse to make the film. That said, how much I can take has to do with the size of the screen. At the theater, I tend to become one with the movie, almost to the point of being a bystander and have a pretty low tolerance. The same flick playing on the smaller TV wouldn't bother me nearly as much.

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It's funny, I have little or no problem with the real stuff and only get squeamish about some of the over-the-top stuff such as the high points in the Saw movies. I can't deal with needles on TV but I had no problem with having a two foot long piece of wood pounded through my hand. Other than the obvious, that is.
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I don't have a big issue with realistic, non-gratuitous violence.

For example, I'm not bothered the graphic nature of movies such as Saving Private Ryan or Schindler's List.

But I quickly grow weary of movies that seem to show violence simply for the sake of having violence.
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In real life or just in movies?
Real life. When I was training with the PD, I had seen a lot of it. Especially the after effects. Now I understand how cops get "hardened" by the things they have to go through. We were often put in the middle of things (domestic violence) and had to intervene. It helped a lot that I am female for the woman was able to trust me when it came to cooperating. Or the children. Victims of horrible abuse. We often carried stuffed animals as a "lovey" for the children to comfort them. They would take them home and hopefully feel a tiny bit better.

The worst was having to deal with someone who commited suicide right in front of you with a shotgun.
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I don't have a big issue with realistic, non-gratuitous violence.

For example, I'm not bothered the graphic nature of movies such as Saving Private Ryan or Schindler's List.

But I quickly grow weary of movies that seem to show violence simply for the sake of having violence.

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Acted/CG violence - no issue whatsoever.
Real violence - something I really don't like.
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Acted/CG violence -- I consider it part of the way to tell a story.

Real violence -- Yecch. Sadly, its something people really need to know about.
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Ironically, displays of pointless and savage behaviour, and even moreso, acts of torture that the director and/or scriptwriters somehow feels is necessary just makes me want to get five minutes alone in a room with them.

Sin City and 24 reaaally make me want to **** someone up...



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I don't think our society has been desensitized. I think this is the way civilized humans have always been. From the massive gladiatorial games of ancient Rome, to public beheadings and hangings of the middle ages. I think violence and death is something that most people want and need (even at a subconscious level) to witness. And because we've become so, ummm...humane?...in modern times, television and movies are the only place we will ever get our dose of death.

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That is an interesting theory. Violence is definitely no stranger to modern civilization. I do agree that some people want and even need it. Is this just fulfilling some instinctual hunter/gatherer urge to go out and collect food? I think it runs a bit more deep than that. I am just not sure why I have such a hard time with it and so many others don't.
It's more that humans have a morbid fascination with the death or maiming of strangers. What is a human's primary urge? To continue the species by the disemination of their genetic material, just like any other animal. Strangers, although of the same species, are competitors to that aim. Their deaths remove them as competitors from the arena. Family members however, except in the case of sociopaths, are of the same stock and such the equation is entirely reversed when we consider their health. Whether or not we want to admit it as humans, there is, at least on a very small level, a measure of satisfaction and relief when withnessing the removal of another stranger from the gene pool.

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I can't stand it in any form.
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Violence in TV/Media- No ill affect on me whatsoever, in fact I own all of the Saws.

Violence in real life- Still doesn't faze me in the slightest, I have no problem watching somebody get kicked in the mouth at a bush party and I have no problem doing it if I have to. I guess being constantly bullied and always fighting when I was younger has something to do with it. Hell, I'm planning to jump a kid for paint balling the truck I'm driving right now.
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Having scooped my favorite teacher's brains off the pavement and yanking a teammate's severed leg from a car-grill, I'd say that violence doesn't faze me too much; it's all a natural part of life. However, I have BIG ISSUES with the way it's glorified in the media.

I see the problem with violence is the artificial and unrealistic way it is portrayed and sanitized in the media. THAT is why we are desensitized to violence, not because of the frequency which it is shown. Violence and the results of injury and death is glorified in such a nice way on TV, movies and games such that it's easily seen as "the best" way to resolve problems and conflicts.

However, there's a huge gap between what you see on TV and what happens in the real world when you get into fights, shootings and car-wrecks. Personally, I'd wish TV to protray violence fully in its real and gory details to show people the REAL story and effects. Show shootings and car-wrecks live on the 8pm news so that people can see the real results; it's not a game where you can reset and life goes back to normal.
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It doesn't really bug me when it's kept to a realistic degree. Movies like Saw, House of 1000 corpses, etc. are just violent for the sake of being violent. But when it's realistic like Pan's Labryinth, Saving Private Ryan, Full Metal Jacket, etc. it doesn't bother me; I think it completes the story. However, I can't watch those executions coming from terrorist groups. They make me sick.
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depends if it has a message or not. I hated it in movies like Kill Bill. I could see no point to it. Yet, in "Natural Born Killers," I saw merit to it. Stone has said it is one of his favorite movies. Loved the scene when Juliette Lewis was listening to the car radio news reports and the news talked of all the violence in the city / she sort of freaked out.
Of course, Hollywood has a knack of showing the violent act about to be committed and then before the gore, turns the camera away. One gets the picture.
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Devils Rejects was a good movie...
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it doesnt' really bother me, spend enough time on 4chan and things start to do that, but I don't particularly enjoy watching violent things, just because it's not that entertaining. Give me a good stand up routine anyday.
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I love movie violence. I have ever since I was young. I was enthralled to watch and see just how real they could make things look without a cutaway shot. Big props to American Werewolf in London for the transformation scene.

What struck me odd was the American Red Cross First Aid films we saw in health class. I fainted dead away when that compound fracture came on screen. I guess it was the difference between pseudo reality and portrayed reality.Tho the faces of Death Series never bothered me.

Bring on the gore.
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For those of you that like violence and fisticuffs, go on youtube and search for Kimbo Slice.

Also, Stacey, you ever see a real compound fracture?
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