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    History idea.

    For history class, I need to write a 6 page paper proving some event that the U.S was apart of. So, since my mom got me a civil war book for Christmas, I figured that might be one really good source (as the non-internet one), but I'm not sure what on the war I could prove...and that will take up 6 pages.
    Any ideas?
    Maybe what caused it, something on a battle, or a person?? Thanks for any help.

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    do a paper on george h. w. bush's involvement with the bay of pigs invasion...........and the kennedy assassination.
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    what about proving that the us covered up ufo's and such?

    or proving that sept 11 is a us conspiracy, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden graham
    what about proving that the us covered up ufo's and such?

    or proving that sept 11 is a us conspiracy, etc.
    I've thought about those, but he won't like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden graham
    what about proving that the us covered up ufo's and such?

    or proving that sept 11 is a us conspiracy, etc.
    those are made up.

    if you want to write a paper about conspiracy's, pick the anthrax attacks.
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    Operation 40...oops, did I say that?
    Would you like a dream with that?

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    How about the War of 1812? This war involved both the US and Canada (or British North America at the time). Neither side could declare a win however It sparked a sense of nationalism for Canada and united Americans in their "Second War of Independence".

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    There's plenty to write about the Civil War. There's hundreds of books about Lincoln alone.

    Without knowing what you've studied, what kind of sources you have, or how much time you have to research, it's a little hard to recommend something specific.

    You live in Texas? You could write about Texas' role in the war. Or a famous Texan.

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    Hey EJ. I always thought that the little known direct US involvement in the Russian Revolution/Civil War in 1917 at Archangel was a potentially fascinating piece of history. It was the brainchild of Secretary of War Newton D. Baker and we went in on the side of the "White" Russians opposing the "Reds". It set the stage for their distrust that became one of the sources of Cold War feelings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote!
    Hey EJ. I always thought that the little known direct US involvement in the Russian Revolution/Civil War in 1917 at Archangel was a potentially fascinating piece of history. It was the brainchild of Secretary of War Newton D. Baker and we went in on the side of the "White" Russians opposing the "Reds". It set the stage for their distrust that became one of the sources of Cold War feelings.
    Hm, I remember reading about that too. But what opininated statement can I say proving something about it?

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    Here's a start if you like the Archangel invasion idea. . .

    http://www.historywiz.com/invasionrussia.htm
    http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/doc32.htm
    http://net.lib.byu.edu/~rdh7/wwi/1918/archangl.html

    Ooops, I got the year wrong by one year.

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    >>> But what opininated statement can I say proving something about it?

    Don't quite follow what you're asking, but maybe it goes, "As the inheritors of the Red Revolutionary legacy and based on US agression on Russian soil in 1918, the USSR was quite justified in distrusting US intentions during the Cold War.".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote!
    Here's a start if you like the Archangel invasion idea. . .

    http://www.historywiz.com/invasionrussia.htm
    http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/doc32.htm
    http://net.lib.byu.edu/~rdh7/wwi/1918/archangl.html

    Ooops, I got the year wrong by one year.
    The first one gives me an idea for a thesis statement, hm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote!
    >>> But what opininated statement can I say proving something about it?

    Don't quite follow what you're asking, but maybe it goes, "As the inheritors of the Red Revolutionary legacy and based on US agression on Russian soil in 1918, the USSR was quite justified in distrusting US intentions during the Cold War.".
    He doesn't want us just blabbing about history as if it was a research paper, but the topic you presented is unique and interesting, and I might just go with that idea.

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    >>> I might just go with that idea

    Well shux, us coyotes like to help the humans when we can.

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    If you really want cookie poins then do your report on something that most no one has heard of or can remember ever learning. Such as the war that almost between America andEngland (GB) over a pig that lasted all but a day. Yes, I'm serious about that. We almost went to war with England over the killing of a stray pig on an island that was inhabited by americans and English.
    What can this report prove? Pick any of your seven deadly sins and you'll probably find a way to associate it.

    Or better yet, write a report on James J. Strang, who was in fact, Americans ONLY king. He was king of Beaver Island in Lake Michigan in the late 1800's. President Fillmore had him arrested and tried but Strang was acquitted. There are many things also that you could prove in writing a paper about him.

    Or if you really want your paper to be civil War themed. Write it about the on going conflict still between the North and South regarding the captured flags on the Union and Confederacy. there is alot of information on the net about this subject as well and your paper could prove that even after treaties are signed and battles are over that war still looms in the hearts and minds of the truely partiotic and heretic.

    damn, I wish I was still in school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pj7
    If you really want cookie poins then do your report on something that most no one has heard of or can remember ever learning. Such as the war that almost between America andEngland (GB) over a pig that lasted all but a day. Yes, I'm serious about that. We almost went to war with England over the killing of a stray pig on an island that was inhabited by americans and English.
    What can this report prove? Pick any of your seven deadly sins and you'll probably find a way to associate it.

    Or better yet, write a report on James J. Strang, who was in fact, Americans ONLY king. He was king of Beaver Island in Lake Michigan in the late 1800's. President Fillmore had him arrested and tried but Strang was acquitted. There are many things also that you could prove in writing a paper about him.

    Or if you really want your paper to be civil War themed. Write it about the on going conflict still between the North and South regarding the captured flags on the Union and Confederacy. there is alot of information on the net about this subject as well and your paper could prove that even after treaties are signed and battles are over that war still looms in the hearts and minds of the truely partiotic and heretic.

    damn, I wish I was still in school.
    Hm, the Strang man and that whole deal seems unqie also. Ug, decisions:|. What is there to prove about this man? I looked on wikipedia about him and he had a thing to do with the Morman Church.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ123
    Hm, the Strang man and that whole deal seems unqie also. Ug, decisions:|. What is there to prove about this man? I looked on wikipedia about him and he had a thing to do with the Morman Church.
    Here is what I know.
    He was from New York, had 4 kids and 2 wives, and yes, he was Mormon.
    In 1850 he was proclaimed as king of Beaver Island.
    He was assassinated in 1856.
    He was born baptist in NY in 1813, in a very very religeous area known as "The Burned Over District" due to its fiery and frequent religeos revivals.
    He studied law, joined the Mormon church, was appointed an elder, and was sent by Joseph smith (a mormon preacher) to investigate a site for a new all-Mormon community.
    when Smith was assassinated in 1844 Strang claimed to be his theocratic heir but later broke off to lead a new community in Illinois. Later he chose Beaver Island in 1847 to become his religeos communities "Garden of Eden" and was proclaimed King by his followers, which was somewhat legal in that time, though I do not know the specifics or the loopholes used.
    His power was absolute. He published a newpaper for the island that covered everything from European happenings to farming on the island.
    He was elected twice to the Michigan Legislature in Lansing.
    He wrote reports for the Smithsonian, played violin and was an amature military strategist.
    By the end of his life he had 5 wives and over a dozen children.
    And he kinda looks like Tim Allen in that movie where he and Kirstie Alley hid out as Amish people.

    that's about all I can tell you

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    BTW, head to a library instead of relying on the interent. Most of what you find on the net is repeated crap that has no backings to it. tghere is no substitute for a good library for finding information.

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    There's an ongoing conflict regarding captured flags? I'm not familiar with that. Who is the conflict between?

    Quote Originally Posted by pj7
    Or if you really want your paper to be civil War themed. Write it about the on going conflict still between the North and South regarding the captured flags on the Union and Confederacy. there is alot of information on the net about this subject as well and your paper could prove that even after treaties are signed and battles are over that war still looms in the hearts and minds of the truely partiotic and heretic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pj7
    Here is what I know.
    He was from New York, had 4 kids and 2 wives, and yes, he was Mormon.
    In 1850 he was proclaimed as king of Beaver Island.
    He was assassinated in 1856.
    He was born baptist in NY in 1813, in a very very religeous area known as "The Burned Over District" due to its fiery and frequent religeos revivals.
    He studied law, joined the Mormon church, was appointed an elder, and was sent by Joseph smith (a mormon preacher) to investigate a site for a new all-Mormon community.
    when Smith was assassinated in 1844 Strang claimed to be his theocratic heir but later broke off to lead a new community in Illinois. Later he chose Beaver Island in 1847 to become his religeos communities "Garden of Eden" and was proclaimed King by his followers, which was somewhat legal in that time, though I do not know the specifics or the loopholes used.
    His power was absolute. He published a newpaper for the island that covered everything from European happenings to farming on the island.
    He was elected twice to the Michigan Legislature in Lansing.
    He wrote reports for the Smithsonian, played violin and was an amature military strategist.
    By the end of his life he had 5 wives and over a dozen children.
    And he kinda looks like Tim Allen in that movie where he and Kirstie Alley hid out as Amish people.

    that's about all I can tell you
    I am having trouble on what to "prove" about this man without making my thesis sound like im just stating a historical fact. ug

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    How does this sound?

    After the death of Joseph Smith, the Mormon Church leader, a considerable predecessor named James Strang, the first renowned King in America of a Lake Michigan Island, led a peculiar new movement to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

    -To many "of"s?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velo Vol
    There's an ongoing conflict regarding captured flags? I'm not familiar with that. Who is the conflict between?
    The conflict is about the return of captured flags, and is very interesting, one southerner can be quoted as saying "I would rather see the flags rot in the South than be perserved in the land of Lincoln".

    In 1887 Grover cleveland's secretary of war, William Endicott, suggested that it would be a "graceful gesture" for the federal government to return the Confederate battle flags gathering dust in the attic of the War Department to their original states. Cleveland initially agrees but the outrage stirred up among the Union veterans who got wind of it caused the president to change his mind, leaving the disposition of the flags to congress, who did nothing about it. In 1905 president Roosevelt passed a bill authorizing the Sec. of War to dispose of the Civil War flags in the posession of the War Department and this act is a key component in the debate over who owns the flags today, because although the document is available for all to read, different parties dispute its meaning, and to this day they are still arguing over its meaning.

    from my recallection, I know that the re-enactors of the 28th Virginia Regiment are involved, so are parties in Mississippi, Kentucky, Alabama, and Georgia.
    As well as Illinois, New York, and Ohio.

    I don't know much more beyond that, at least I don't know what is fact from fiction and would hate to lead you on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ123
    How does this sound?

    After the death of Joseph Smith, the Mormon Church leader, a considerable predecessor named James Strang, the first renowned King in America of a Lake Michigan Island, led a peculiar new movement to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

    -To many "of"s?
    I don't know if there are too many "of"s, but the Latter Day saints thing is taking it a bit too far
    I think his sect of the Mormon church was not recognized by the actual Church itself, kind of like the Ku-Klux Klan and the Knights Templar

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    Hmmm. Alright thanks for that tip.

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