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Old 03-29-07, 08:56 AM   #1
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Ugh!! I just had to fire someone

YIKES that sucked!!!

She was very upset too. Its not an easy job especially when they start asking you why and such??
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Old 03-29-07, 09:00 AM   #2
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well, why?
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Hmm...I'm not sure I'd say "never". But still, I am so glad I'm no longer responsible for the firing or the hiring.
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well, why?
She was MEAN and wouldn't listen to me when I was training her, also mean to other staff members
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mean people suck. good on you for getting rid of her. there's only so much you can do and it's a place of business. if she's affecting business, she's out.
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I found that for me, firing is THE single hardest job of a business owner.
It's the one part that I just don't like.
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I actually enjoy firing people. It's uplifting.
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She was MEAN and wouldn't listen to me when I was training her, also mean to other staff members
So it wasn't a personality fit? Yuck, those are the hardest. I've had to recommend firing people before, but I've never had to actually do it. I know that day will come, though....
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Being someone who would never be a supervisor of any type, I've never fired anyone. I did get fired once though, from a company I was thinking about quitting from anyway. Worst company I ever worked for. When my boss told me they were "letting me go" I got a huge smile on my face. I don't know what its like to fire people, but I sure did enjoy getting fired.

Got a temporary job with my old construction company on my drive home, and got a nice job installing windows lined up a few days later. Yep, I liked getting fired.
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So it wasn't a personality fit? Yuck, those are the hardest. I've had to recommend firing people before, but I've never had to actually do it. I know that day will come, though....
Yeah it was her personality. She was very abrasive for a new person, didn't like to follow our procedures, and had the attitude of why are you telling me this kinda thing!!

It sucked and I feel bad but you gotta do whats right for the business.
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You should have watched the Apprentice or something to get in the mood first ...
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Yep firing folks is hard. That's why when I was in a postion to fire others, I made darn well sure they earned it.

Three strikes in a 4 month period. A strike is any DELIBERATE action, or a longterm problem (deliberate or not) that has not been resolved within 30 days.

Only firing I had to do that I wish didn't have to happen was a guy who just could not get his act together....he had too much on his mind...to the point that he was physically unable to perform the job. Bad parts slid past him without a blink, he would not notice a shield was off center, and mangle it when he installed the part, etc.

Per month the guy was the source of 4/5ths of our failures....I gave him enough chances since he needed the job....but in the end his inability to improve was making it hard on everyone else....so I found some places that were hiring, and pointed him towards them when I let him go.

It sucked, but it had to be done....I just made sure to do it in a way that was as easy for him as possible as well, since he wasn't hostile or anything...it was just not the right job for him (this was the "entry level" for this facility...if he couldn't do that, there was no other place to put him, sadly).
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sounds like you did the right thing; don't feel bad about it. If you had let her stay to spare her feelings or whatever, you would have caused more harm than good.
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Sorry Snowy - yeah, it sucks but you did the right thing it sounds like.
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Yeah it was her personality. She was very abrasive for a new person, didn't like to follow our procedures, and had the attitude of why are you telling me this kinda thing!!

It sucked and I feel bad but you gotta do whats right for the business.
What kind of business do you work for?

You should not feel bad for this. It was probably in the best interest for your company & for the person who was fired. Sometimes it is a wake up call for the person. In a way you may have helped her, hopefully she will take this experience & learn from it. Especially if she knows why she was fired. Does she?
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Yeah speaking of jobs - whatever happened to mr. boss who got audited and was supposed to pay back people for overtime not paid. You still working for him?
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You should not feel bad for this. It was probably in the best interest for your company & for the person who was fired. Sometimes it is a wake up call for the person. In a way you may have helped her, hopefully she will take this experience & learn from it. Especially if she knows why she was fired. Does she?
Well first I didn't say this but she was only here for a week. I work for an law firm. I'm the lead paralegal.

I didn't go into dept with her about why I just explained to her that we didn't believe she was a good fit for us and us for her.

The biggest problem we saw was that she wanted to do it HER way and not our way and I explained this to her on Tuesday that we have to follow procedures for a reason. She was really put off by it and then I let her work on a project for the entire day and I asked her if I could review it and she said NO!! So I didn't want to waste anymore of my time training someone whom wasn't willing to learn. Also, the entire project that she did was done INCORRECTLY. I have to now redo it ALL.
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Yeah speaking of jobs - whatever happened to mr. boss who got audited and was supposed to pay back people for overtime not paid. You still working for him?
Yep still here and we got our back pay along with our bonuses. I got a $15,000.00 check in December for bonus and $3,500 for back pay. We now how strict overtime rules. It actually turned out to be good for us
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yup, she shoulda been let go. You did the right thing.
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Yep still here and we got our back pay along with our bonuses. I got a $15,000.00 check in December for bonus and $3,500 for back pay. We now how strict overtime rules. It actually turned out to be good for us
Haha 15k for bonus and 3500 for back pay?
He not want to pay the taxes on the 15k i'm guessing so instead decided to give that as the bonus?
Well I guess as long as things worked out.
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Having to fire people does suck. It's my absolute least favorite thing about being a manager. Second is hiring people. I'm OK with dealing with the person who gets hired. It's the ones that don't that I feel bad about. At least the last person I had to fire was caught on camera stealing money so it was easier. I didn't have to say much once she saw the tape.
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Not much to dwell on here Snowy, it was absolutely the right thing to do, it's part of what you do. It's hard to judge how a person will actually work when you interview them, but waiting any longer to let her go would have been worse. I bet your manager was pleased that you stepped up and took action, maybe you can make a mental note on things to look for in the hiring process for this position. It's a sign of your good nature and warm personality that you feel bad, it won't last long because it was the right thing to do.
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