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    mp3 player/desktop speaker question

    If I have a mp3 player and set of desktop speakers, could I hook the speakers up to the player and listen to it with little to no loss in volume/quality?

    edit- Wow, I got a creative zen v plus that just sounds awesome with my atp3s. Now I need to get a suitable inverter and I should be good.
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    yes?

    do the speakers have a headphone jack input so you just plug the speakers into the mp3 player?

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    The speakers connect to whatever source through the usual 3.5(?)mm M/M line, the physical connection isn't a problem imle. I'm just wondering if the sound will be similar to plugging it into a pci sound card.

    According to cnet I can
    Quote Originally Posted by cnet
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    You can connect any MP3 player to one of the 2.1 computer speaker systems mentioned above to create a compact stereo sound system in any room in your house.
    I'm still wondering what differences in SQ there may be when compared to a generic onboard PCI source.
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    I've had no problems connecting even my aged Creative Nomad 2 to powered and unpowered speakers. However, it sports both normal headphones and line out voltage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyeinyoureye
    The speakers connect to whatever source through the usual 3.5(?)mm M/M line, the physical connection isn't a problem imle. I'm just wondering if the sound will be similar to plugging it into a pci sound card.

    According to cnet I can


    I'm still wondering what differences in SQ there may be when compared to a generic onboard PCI source.

    Basically.....don't sweat it, just do it....if using the same speakers, it will sound the same as running your ipod through a miniplug through your soundcard and back out to your speakers.

    The only way it will sound different is if you docked your iPod, in which case a pure digital signal is sent to your computer and then converted to analog by your soundcard...in that case there is an improvement when using the computer (since sound cards have cleaner outputs than most MP3 players (iPods don't have the cleanest analog outs to begin with), but unless you have really nice speakers, you will probably not notice it.
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    Awesome, that's exactly what I wanted to hear. It'll be going in my car, since I have a set of atp3s I'm not using, and a $100 dell concession coupon to blow. All I need is a suitable (not much since speakers are ~50watts all together) 12v dc/120v ac inverter and I'm set. Should be able to do it for under $50. I was thinking about a carputer, but that'd require a lcd, larger inverter, and may kill the hd prematurely.

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    Yep. I play my ipod through my logitech X-230's all the time. X-230's are the best $40 speakers ever.

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    lyeinyoureye.

    Have you considered a FM modulator for your ipod? That will let you run it off of the FM radio.

    Yes it's lowered sound quality, but at the least you won't have to have speakers and an inverter flopping around in your car. I used to have a portable CD player that had a built in modulator....worked great, especially with rental cars, which tended to have craptacular AM/FM radios (WTF? not even a casstte deck)


    Oh, and for carputers, look at a VIA EPIA motherboard, and a 12V input power supply core, then use CF cards for your hard drive. Get a Lilliput 6" touch TFT, and have a set of linear actuators pull it in and out of the dash (setup a spring loaded door to look like there's nothing there)....hook up an outboard DAC for the optical out on the EPIA board, feed a 40x4 amp from it, and run your speakers from that.....BOOM, all in one mega car-computer. Just add software
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    I haven't had much luck with fm modulators, and the drop in SQ does bite, especially considering the stock speakers are 25 years old, and were probably crappy when new. The satellites will be secured to my rear speak shelves with velcro, so that shouldn't be a problem, and the bass/inverter (12v from what used to be the fuel pump connector) will be zip tied in a corner or may use Velcro too. When I go for a carputer, the route you suggested seems nice, but very pricey... I may just see how long one of my old rigs hangs together off of the inverter.
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    You can compromise on the setup by omitting the DAC and using analog outs (you may want to go with a soundblaster Audigy 2ZS instead of onboard sound in this case...onboard is usually pretty low SQ), as well as finding another answer for the touch screen. Something as simple as a USB numeric keypad can be used as an effective controller, and a 2-4line monochrome LCD can be used as a display if you really want to go budget.
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    I was actually thinking about going w/ the hardware I had, and getting a 17-19" LCD for ~$100 AR that I could take apart and fab a mount for. Having multiple pci slots would be nice since I could have a coffee can antenna for each and a script that would switch between the interfaces depending on signal strength and availability. Control would be through the normal keyboard mouse with mappings for music while driving, and normal use while not. The CF idea is very tempting but w/o some nice rebates I wouldn't have as much in the way of capacity, so I may try to rig up some kind of dampened hard drive enclosure. All told I'd like to keep a carputer project under $200 with a nice big LCD screen. But I'm hoping the sq will be o.k. with my mp3 player and desktop satellites. In any event I'll find out some time next week.

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    $75 for 8GB of CF memory sound decent? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820211048

    I know these aren't the cheapest things in the world, but it beats having a hard disk die from vibration.
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    Definitely! By the time I get around to doing this (couple months) they'll probably be cheaper as well... I could fit my entire arch install on a few gigs iirc, and that's with tons of bloat. Have a couple 1-2gb cards with a reader for stuff, awesome... Thanks for the link!

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