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Old 05-05-07, 11:27 AM   #1
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Illegible handwriting

What is it with people? Do they not WANT other people to be able to read thie scribblings?
(just spent an hour trying to decipher membership forms so these writing impaired folk could get their membership cards Sunday...)
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Old 05-05-07, 01:11 PM   #2
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I'm a college student and I do some on-campus work grading assignments for the freshmen level classes. The writing and spelling of some of these students is atrocious (did I spell that right??).

My own handwriting is not the best, but if someone else is going to read it I'll put in extra effort to make it legible.
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Literacy: Ability to read, spell and to communicate through written language.
-the best of Google's definitions for my purpose
A person who can read but who cannot communicate through written language is only partially literate.
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Old 05-05-07, 01:59 PM   #4
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Literacy: Ability to read, spell and to communicate through written language.
-the best of Google's definitions for my purpose
A person who can read but who cannot communicate through written language is only partially literate.
Not so fast...

If we're going by Google's definition, I would be considered only partially literate. My handwriting can only be deciphered by me. However, thanks to modern technologies like computers and the intarweb, I can make my ideas and thoughts known to not just my friends and library patrons, but to virtually anyone with an internet connection (and, well, knowledge of the English language, but we're working on that one)

The link that I provided about is a short video made by a colleague to describe the Web 2.0 trend. Some of you may have already seen it? It's kind of neat, maybe a little bit off-topic for this thread, but it puts forth some really interesting ideas about the transfer of knowledge and communication.

I might have horribly crappy handwriting, but I consider myself fully literate
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I would suggest, to all you self professed illegible handwriters, that you pick up a calligraphy book & practice the basic italics handwriting. You will not always HAVE a keyboard to convey your thoughts; sometimes you just have to pick up a pen/pencil and actually, OMG, WRITE something that someone else has to read!!!

Of course, you could also just get over yourselves & write neatly... but italics probably appeals to your overinflated sense of self. If you weren't too important for the rest of the universe , we'd be able to read what you write, because you would WANT us to.
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I would suggest, to all you self professed illegible handwriters, that you pick up a calligraphy book & practice the basic italics handwriting. You will not always HAVE a keyboard to convey your thoughts; sometimes you just have to pick up a pen/pencil and actually, OMG, WRITE something that someone else has to read!!!

Of course, you could also just get over yourselves & write neatly... but italics probably appeals to your overinflated sense of self. If you weren't too important for the rest of the universe , we'd be able to read what you write, because you would WANT us to.
I'm not sure if that was directed at me in particular, or if you're venting your frusteration from your earlier experience. I'm going to try to not get worked up.

When I was learning to write, I was a leftie. My teachers hated it, and would force me to write with my right hand. When I went home, my mom had no idea they were trying to turn my into a rightie (she's a fellow leftie). This has pretty much ****ed up my writing, period. Right handed, it's a mess, and left handed is at least as bad.

In my line of work, I DO have a keyboard and computer available to me at all times. In the rare event that I have to fill something out, yes, I slow down enough to ensure that what is written will be able to be deciphered (usually by using block-styled uppercase lettering)

Please do not assume that I feel too important or have an over-inflated sense of self, or anyone else with less-than-stellar penmanship for that matter. I find it most odd that you are so disturbed and utterly affronted by other people's handwriting that you would resort to generalizations and mockery.
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What is funny about this is that I recently had a conversation about this very topic with my wife. She has lovely handwriting, I've got this weird style of hand writing thats all caps. I tried to write cursive to see if I could. I was shocked to discover that I no longer could. I sat there for about an hour until I could remember how to make all the cursive letters.

Moral of the story, if you don't use it, You'll lose it.
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Eboo - general fustration - not you in particular.

I come from an entire family of truely terrible handwriters - and all my brothers & I have basically resorted to italics or, like you, block caps.
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We don't teach handwriting in schools anymore. It's becoming a lost skill. Now we teach keyboarding (I still can't believe that's actually a word....)
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Listen, be glad it's not illegal handwriting..
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What is it with people? Do they not WANT other people to be able to read thie scribblings?
(just spent an hour trying to decipher membership forms so these writing impaired folk could get their membership cards Sunday...)
Hey it's The doctors way of saying i'm lazy dammit .
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Old 05-05-07, 11:06 PM   #13
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What is it with people? Do they not WANT other people to be able to read thie scribblings?
(just spent an hour trying to decipher membership forms so these writing impaired folk could get their membership cards Sunday...)
I have epilepsy. After my first few Grand Mal seizures, I started to lose a lot of my fine motor control skills in my hands. This results in a paragraph of text that takes approximately 7 minutes to write in a legible fashion. It also makes my hands cramp up. I can whack out words like nothing on a keyboard, but when it comes to writing, it's going to look like chicken scratches if I have a lot of writing to do and not much time or patience.
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I have kinda messy writing when I'm taking notes or writing something that only I will need to read. If someone else will need to read it, I try to make it look nicer, but it still isn't great.

Why is it that girls always have the coolest handwriting? They're writing is always all cursivey (sp?) and they dot their i's with little hearts and stuff.
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I'm a girl and I havd terrible handwriting. Comes from signing way too many forms
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In college my style of handwriting changed because I did a lot of writing in the back of a moving ambulance. Legible, yes. Pretty, no.
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Sorry apclassic, I'll do better next year.
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My wife freaked out the kids in her class when she was writing on the blackboard. She is mainly left, but kinda ambidextrous (or bi-sexual as her sister said once...) She wrote with her left hand until she got to the middle of the board and then just swapped the chalk to the other hand and carried on.

She uses the mouse right handed (doing computer graphics) and cannot cut with left handed scissors.

Different response to being taught right instead of left.
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If I want people to read my handwriting, I use shop print technique, otherwise, I use rather sloppy Edwardian cursive script. Not because I don't want them to read it or that I'm full of myself, it just deteriorates as I need speed. If I really don't want it read, I use Gregg shorthand (Such as when I am taking lecture notes, then it's practicality....I can keep up with the professor!)
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I don't think I saw one response here that really addressed the people I'm complaining about. Maybe the folks with undecipherable public writing should just be ignored in general.... like, I can't read your writing, well, you'll never get a membership card. Or your card will say "WHAT??" in place of the undecipherable name... What do you think? I've just quit smoking, and I can see myself not being a nice person & actually DOING that.
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Handwriting skills are a lost art in the days of the computer.
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Doctors are excused. Their handwriting needs to be illegible. Someone trying to forge prescriptions once got rumbled because the prescription was too neatly written - they couln't believe a doctor wrote it.
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I have bad nerve damage in my right hand, and cannot write with my left AT ALL.

And my writing is horrible, even if I try to write neat it comes put bad.
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Doctors are excused. Their handwriting needs to be illegible. Someone trying to forge prescriptions once got rumbled because the prescription was too neatly written - they couln't believe a doctor wrote it.
Interestingly enough, I read a thing that said sloppy hand writing is easier to forge than nice writing. They said it's because it's harder to forge nice writing and have it look natural.

Anywho, I always had chicken scratch. Then in the 5th grade or so I practiced like crazy and actually won an award. But it's all gone now and since most of my written communication is electronic, I can barely write my own name. Although, my signature has pretty much stayed the same, just don't ask me to print it.
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I had a stroke. My right side is jacked up. I can barely write so it's legible. Sorry if it's a problem.

On second thought, I'm just glad to be alive. To hell with the handwriting.
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