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Old 05-22-07, 03:40 PM   #1
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VW Jetta TDI Diesel

Was wondering if anyone drives the 06 Jetta TDI, any comments? pro's, con's

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I don't drive one, but they get good gas mileage and are pretty quick.

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The electrical systems on German vehicles can be finicky. Also, repairs are outstandingly expensive. Friend broke the timing chain on her VW Golf and bent a bunch of valves. $3000 later....
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Brother drove an 02 Jetta TDI. It was a great car that got spectacular mileage (upper 30's regularly, low 40's sometimes). It drowned in a hurricane, but before then it gave him no trouble what so ever, and he drives cars into the ground.
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their soso they get great fuel mileage
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Also, repairs are outstandingly expensive. Friend broke the timing chain on her VW Golf and bent a bunch of valves. $3000 later....
Welcome to the world of interference engines.

Like it has been said, they are zippy little cars that get decent mileage but the repairs cost A LOT. They are also a pain in the ass to work on if you do your own oil changes and such.
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I had a bad experience with VW that pushed me to Honda. I had an '02 Passat 1.8T that was fine with the exception of 1 recall, at least until the warranty ran out. At 51,000 miles (warranty goes to 50) stuff just started breaking--and it's all expensive to fix.

You get all the maintenance costs of owning an Audi without the bigger up front costs.
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Judging by what I've seen with people I went to school with, they are fabulous for turning into tuner cars, but they seem to have a nasty habbit of breaking, and that can be a pain in the ass for someone who just wants their car to work. Thats about all I know about VW's.

Gas milage would be good, but you could probably do about as well by getting a tiny Honda or Toyota and installing a turbo.
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Friend broke the timing chain on her VW Golf and bent a bunch of valves. $3000 later....
They don't have timing chains.

Anyhoo... Great engine, wrapped in a VW. So, reliability/electrical issues. Plastic water pump impellers that break before 100k, cheap interiors, and funky electrical. Stay away from the new Beetle, one of the worst in terms of reliability. If you want reliable and cheap, put a TDI in an older car. Btw, how can a turbo improve gas mileage? It may move around the BSFC curves a bit, but from everything I've gathered, it's not an economy item.
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All the used tdi's I see on craigslist all have over 200k, some pushing 300k..and they're expensive, probably due to the fact that they can't be sold new here.

edit: hmm, maybe I was misinformed. It looks like you may be able to get new tdi's in new england.

edit edit: no new tdi's in Maine, Massachusetts, California, Vermont, New York. ("they pollute too much")

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They don't have timing chains.
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The Golf wasn't a TDI...
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I had a TDI Gulf that we liked a lot. Same frame and engine as the Jetta (at least back in 2002) and it got fantatstic mileage (49 MPG was common). The car seemed to loose a lot of power (it was never really powerful but had all kinds of torque so it was quick from a stop sign) once we got about 50k miles on it. We sold the vehicle while lived in Anchorage - my wife needed a more capable car to deal with the winter up there so we traded it in on a Subaru. Got a lot for the trade since TDI is so desirable.

They are great cars and very reasonably priced. I would recommend one.
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I had a 98 Jetta TDI 5 speed. Hwy mileage was 45-55 mph depending on wind speed, direction and cruise speed. City was more like 40. Loved that car.
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The Golf wasn't a TDI...
None of VW's watercooled I4 engines have a chain iirc, they're all belt driven.
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None of VW's watercooled I4 engines have a chain iirc, they're all belt driven.

Belt, chain, tomato, grapefruit.
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Elephant, black hole, dshgdsfkjl, 42... I know, they're all the same. Perfectly identical.
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I was always an Asian car guy. I had an Integra and an uber fast DSM.

Zee Germans were always too expensive for me to mess with.
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VWs are dirt cheap. Well, the older ones anyway.
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I was always an Asian car guy. I had an Integra and an uber fast DSM.

Zee Germans were always too expensive for me to mess with.
DSMs are fast but they break way more that VWs do its not rare to see one blow up at the track before warmups.
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Thanks guys, for the record the 06 TDI does have a timing belt and it requires changing every 100K.

The 06 Jetta TDI is the last VW Diesel to be produced till the cleaner 08 diesel models.

I wish Japanese cars came with a Diesel engine, I just don't know about the Hybrids, I test drove a Prius and it was nice but a little jerky everytime the engine starts and stops.

I think it time to replace my E320 with a more fuel efficient car.
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The quality of European cars is kinda iffy.
With diesel fuel costing just as much if not more than gas and the poor quality and expensive repair costs, youd be better off with a Corolla, Yaris or Scion xA. Corollas will pull 40+ mpg on the highway and the xA and Yaris will pull in the high 30s. Im sure the Civic pulls in the mid to high 30s as well (and is a very good car), but I dont really have much experience with Hondas, so dont quote me on that. Id personally recommend a Toyota/Scion because I know from personal experience that its something that will last you 200,000+ miles with minimal repair costs. A Scion xB or tC would be another option. The xB wont pull the same milage as the others I mentioned though. The boxy styling isnt exactly the most aerodynamic. The tC is a really nice car though. Its very similar to the old Celica, but it has the 2.4L engine from the Camry, so it actually has some lowend torque (something the Celica lacked).
Flywolf, if you test drove a first-generation Prius you should give it another chance, because the 2nd gen Prius is a much better car than the first gen. My neibor's wife drives an '06 Prius and you cant even tell when the gas motor cycles on and off unless you are looking at the power distribution display. Its seamless.
The only thing about a Prius is that if you do lots of highway driving you arent really going to save much on gas over a small 4-banger car. The efficiency of a Prius comes in running on electric power as much as possible and unless you are driving around town under 40 mph all the time that doesnt happen. On the highway the Prius really isnt any more efficient than any other small car.
I would definetely stay away from any of the domestics. The Cobalt and Focus still have quality issues and wont pull the same milage as the riceburners. They are nice cars, but they still cant compare to whats coming out of Japan in terms of quality, dependability and fuel economy.
Also, I would most definetely stay away from anything Korean (Kia, Hyundai and the Chevy Aveo). Those cars are fine if you trade up every 2 or 3 years, but if you are buying something hoping to keep it a long time anything Korean is a bad idea.
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I have a 96 TDI Golf GTI. It's a great car which uses very little fuel. On the highway I get about 5l/100km, and in the city 5.8l/100km. Here in Europe the TDI has a great reputation, just make sure to change the timing belt when you are susposed to.
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I have 31k miles on my '06 TDI Jetta. Love it, best car I have owned so far.

I avg a bit over 43mpg on the freeway when cruising at 75mph. 50 mpg is easy if I keep speeds under 60mph. On a big road trip last summer I went 733 miles on a single tank, 52.7 MPG.

The bottom line for me? Its a fun car to drive, more then enough passing power. I fully expect to get 300k miles out of it. I can fit 4 adults very comfortably in the car, I'm 6'4" and I can fit in the back seat just fine. I don't fit in most 'economy' sized cars. Lots of trunk room, can tow a small trailer with no issues.

I have had two small electrical issues that I need to get fixed, my xm radio died a few months after purchase and my airbag light is currently on. Both will be fixed under the warranty.

Have you been on the TDIclub.com forums yet? Great community over there...
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The quality of European cars is kinda iffy.
With diesel fuel costing just as much if not more than gas and the poor quality and expensive repair costs, youd be better off with a Corolla, Yaris or Scion xA. Corollas will pull 40+ mpg on the highway and the xA and Yaris will pull in the high 30s. Im sure the Civic pulls in the mid to high 30s as well (and is a very good car), but I dont really have much experience with Hondas, so dont quote me on that. Id personally recommend a Toyota/Scion because I know from personal experience that its something that will last you 200,000+ miles with minimal repair costs. A Scion xB or tC would be another option. The xB wont pull the same milage as the others I mentioned though. The boxy styling isnt exactly the most aerodynamic. The tC is a really nice car though. Its very similar to the old Celica, but it has the 2.4L engine from the Camry, so it actually has some lowend torque (something the Celica lacked).
Flywolf, if you test drove a first-generation Prius you should give it another chance, because the 2nd gen Prius is a much better car than the first gen. My neibor's wife drives an '06 Prius and you cant even tell when the gas motor cycles on and off unless you are looking at the power distribution display. Its seamless.
The only thing about a Prius is that if you do lots of highway driving you arent really going to save much on gas over a small 4-banger car. The efficiency of a Prius comes in running on electric power as much as possible and unless you are driving around town under 40 mph all the time that doesnt happen. On the highway the Prius really isnt any more efficient than any other small car.
I would definetely stay away from any of the domestics. The Cobalt and Focus still have quality issues and wont pull the same milage as the riceburners. They are nice cars, but they still cant compare to whats coming out of Japan in terms of quality, dependability and fuel economy.
Also, I would most definetely stay away from anything Korean (Kia, Hyundai and the Chevy Aveo). Those cars are fine if you trade up every 2 or 3 years, but if you are buying something hoping to keep it a long time anything Korean is a bad idea.
+1,000.000 on the Corolla!!!! 22 years old,176,645 miles,runs like a finely tuned swiss watch! in the 16 years I have owned this I havent spent the cost of a decent down payment on a new VW owning this car....and that includes the $1600 I paid fer it!!! (1986 Toyota Corolla)

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