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    The Site Administrator: Currently at home recovering from a couple of strokes,please contact my assistnt admins for forum issues Tom Stormcrowe's Avatar
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    Greatest Thinkers of ALL Historic Times?

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    Classical Period:
    Socrates
    Zoroaster
    Aristotle
    Siddhartha
    Leonidas of Sparta


    The Enlightenment
    Rene Descartes
    Sir Isaac Newton
    Galileo
    Sir Thomas More

    Modern :1800 to date:
    Immanuel Kant
    Sartre
    Freidrich Neitzche


    Who are yours? (Any or all categories, the other thread was limited to modern and a lot of my thought influence is fropm a period outside the immediate modern period.....too limited!)
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    Modern:
    Carl Sagan
    Arthur Clarke
    Gene Roddenbury

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    Clarence Darrow and John Browning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe
    Categories:
    Classical Period:
    Socrates
    Zoroaster
    Aristotle
    Archimedes
    Siddhartha
    Leonidas of Sparta
    Mohammad ibn-Musa al-Khwarizmi
    Sun Tzu


    The Enlightenment
    Rene Descartes
    Sir Isaac Newton
    Galileo
    Sir Thomas Moore
    Da Vinci
    Benjamin Franklin

    Modern :1800 to date:
    Immanuel Kant
    Sartre
    Freidrich Neitzche
    Lincoln
    Einstein
    Gandhi
    Marshall


    Who are yours? (Any or all categories, the other thread was limited to modern and a lot of my thought influence is from a period outside the immediate modern period.....too limited!)
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    Archimedes
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    Forgot the Middle Ages, did ya?
    Anthemius of Tralles and Isidore of Miletus
    Alcuin
    Amalarius of Metz (all hail the heretics!)
    Gregory of Tours
    Thomas Aquinas
    Dun Scotus
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    Isaac Newton - dude invented calculus. He didn't get an "A", wasn't in the honors program, he invented the sh*t. Not to mention the other things he came up with. Newton !!!

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    12th milennium BCE:

    Urgh The Magnificent. Revolutionized human eating habits by discovering that large, blunt objects can turn animals into food.

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    The Ethioptian aka Aesop

    Jallal al din Muhammed aka Rumi

    Farad un-din Attar

    John Locke

    Alistair Crowley

    W.E.B. DuBois

    H.G. Wells

    Pablo Neruda

    Francios-Marie Arouet aka Voltaire

    Georgy Ivanovich Gurdjieff

    Edward Kennedy Ellington aka Duke Ellington

    Albert Einstien

    Dr. Martin Luthur King, Jr.

    Osama bin Muhammad bin 'awad bin Laden

    Adolf Hitler

    Marie Curie

    Ayn Rand

    Anais Nin

    Buckminster Fuller

    Issac Azimov

    Carl Sagan

    John Ronald Reuel Tolkien

    Emiliano Zapata

    Leonardo DeVinci

    Reuben Garret L. Goldberg

    Prince Siddartha Guatama aka The Buddah

    Black Elk

    Chief Seattle

    Ayonwentah

    James Oglethorpe

    Dr. Crawford W. Long

    George Washington Carver

    Benjamin Franklin

    Benjamin Banneker

    Socrates

    Galileo Galeli
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    I'd put Solomon on the list, but many Biblical historians blame his Judah-centric policies for the collapse of Israel...so maybe not.

    Rambling, non-exclusive list:

    Aristotle
    Socrates
    Hipocrates
    Cicero?
    St. Augustine
    Confucious
    Copernicus (Galileo was too stuck up)
    Chief Joseph
    Edward III (maybe...at least he was a renowned leader)
    St. Thomas Aquinas
    Isaac Newton
    Albert Einstein
    Rene Descartes
    MLK Jr.


    I know I'm leaving a couple foreigners out I really think should be in the list, but they'll come to me later
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    Quote Originally Posted by iamlucky13

    I know I'm leaving a couple foreigners out I really think should be in the list, but they'll come to me later
    Foreign in what sense?

    And Solomon is justified an add despite whatever malicious things he was responsible for...the op said great thinkers, not great people. Hell, I included Hitler and Bin Laden for changing the nature of villany with their thinking.

    Solomon deserves a shout. Good add.

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    I was thinking my list leaned a little heavily toward Americans in the more modern times, but looking back at it I only count three...and one was native American while a second was a first generation immigrant. I had Thomas Jefferson on the list, but I wasn't sure I'd compare him to these others, and as far as I know, he was more a collector of good thoughts than an original source. Maybe Thomas Paine in his stead?

    Regarding Solomon, I'm mixed because apparently he had a heavy favoritism towards Judah economically that turned out to be short-sighted strategically. It was bad for unity and bad for defense.
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    Well, if you look at it that way, Hitler pretty much destroyed his nation which would say he wasn't that deep of a thinker - and bin Laden has caused a lot of young men to self-destruct. I don't think they are original as much as obsessed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crtreedude
    Well, if you look at it that way, Hitler pretty much destroyed his nation which would say he wasn't that deep of a thinker - and bin Laden has caused a lot of young men to self-destruct. I don't think they are original as much as obsessed.

    I don't discount their innate ability as visionaries just because they used it for evil. I know it's hard to accept, but I believe it's important to know and respect your enemies.

    Hitler united Germany before he self-destructed, and tapped into some pretty important primitive instincts and imagery. Bin Laden is doing the same thing in the mid-east. They both shifted the course of history, no small feat.

    That sort of thing requires a great mind backed by powerful thought processes. No accidents there, my friend.

    I would have included Stalin, but he just rode off the great prowess of Karl Marx.

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    completely incomplete, off the top of my head:

    Giotto
    Pieter Brueghel
    Marcel Duchamp
    Joh Cage
    Sol Lewitt
    Alan Kaprow
    Robert Smithson

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    Popeye (I yam what I yam)
    Linus, Lucy, Snoopy

    (great thinkers are great, but how many people actually are aware of them? one must also focus on the 'lowest common denominator' - cultural icons - which deliver the same messages)
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    Carroll Shelby is good for at least an honorable mention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austropithicus
    Isaac Newton - dude invented calculus. He didn't get an "A", wasn't in the honors program, he invented the sh*t. Not to mention the other things he came up with. Newton !!!
    Some Greek mathematics was essentially the integral calculus, but they of course didn't put all the pieces together. I'm not sure I'd include Newton myself, simply because the discovery of calculus was inevitable. I mean, Leibnitz discovered it roughly around the same time. The mathematicians who are real noteworthy really turned some ideas on their head or made strong headway in an area. I'm partial to more modern mathematics so I would nominate

    Galois
    Noether
    Cantor
    Gödel

    Euler of course should be included in any list.

    But of course the individual with the deepest insight would have to be L. Ron Hubbard

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