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Old 05-30-07, 05:48 PM   #1
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Greatest Thinkers of ALL Historic Times?

Categories:
Classical Period:
Socrates
Zoroaster
Aristotle
Siddhartha
Leonidas of Sparta


The Enlightenment
Rene Descartes
Sir Isaac Newton
Galileo
Sir Thomas More

Modern :1800 to date:
Immanuel Kant
Sartre
Freidrich Neitzche


Who are yours? (Any or all categories, the other thread was limited to modern and a lot of my thought influence is fropm a period outside the immediate modern period.....too limited!)
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Carl Sagan
Arthur Clarke
Gene Roddenbury
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Categories:
Classical Period:
Socrates
Zoroaster
Aristotle
Archimedes
Siddhartha
Leonidas of Sparta
Mohammad ibn-Musa al-Khwarizmi
Sun Tzu


The Enlightenment
Rene Descartes
Sir Isaac Newton
Galileo
Sir Thomas Moore
Da Vinci
Benjamin Franklin

Modern :1800 to date:
Immanuel Kant
Sartre
Freidrich Neitzche
Lincoln
Einstein
Gandhi
Marshall


Who are yours? (Any or all categories, the other thread was limited to modern and a lot of my thought influence is from a period outside the immediate modern period.....too limited!)
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Old 05-30-07, 08:43 PM   #5
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Franklin
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Old 05-30-07, 09:58 PM   #6
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Forgot the Middle Ages, did ya?
Anthemius of Tralles and Isidore of Miletus
Alcuin
Amalarius of Metz (all hail the heretics!)
Gregory of Tours
Thomas Aquinas
Dun Scotus
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Isaac Newton - dude invented calculus. He didn't get an "A", wasn't in the honors program, he invented the sh*t. Not to mention the other things he came up with. Newton !!!
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12th milennium BCE:

Urgh The Magnificent. Revolutionized human eating habits by discovering that large, blunt objects can turn animals into food.
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The Ethioptian aka Aesop

Jallal al din Muhammed aka Rumi

Farad un-din Attar

John Locke

Alistair Crowley

W.E.B. DuBois

H.G. Wells

Pablo Neruda

Francios-Marie Arouet aka Voltaire

Georgy Ivanovich Gurdjieff

Edward Kennedy Ellington aka Duke Ellington

Albert Einstien

Dr. Martin Luthur King, Jr.

Osama bin Muhammad bin 'awad bin Laden

Adolf Hitler

Marie Curie

Ayn Rand

Anais Nin

Buckminster Fuller

Issac Azimov

Carl Sagan

John Ronald Reuel Tolkien

Emiliano Zapata

Leonardo DeVinci

Reuben Garret L. Goldberg

Prince Siddartha Guatama aka The Buddah

Black Elk

Chief Seattle

Ayonwentah

James Oglethorpe

Dr. Crawford W. Long

George Washington Carver

Benjamin Franklin

Benjamin Banneker

Socrates

Galileo Galeli

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Old 05-30-07, 11:57 PM   #11
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I'd put Solomon on the list, but many Biblical historians blame his Judah-centric policies for the collapse of Israel...so maybe not.

Rambling, non-exclusive list:

Aristotle
Socrates
Hipocrates
Cicero?
St. Augustine
Confucious
Copernicus (Galileo was too stuck up)
Chief Joseph
Edward III (maybe...at least he was a renowned leader)
St. Thomas Aquinas
Isaac Newton
Albert Einstein
Rene Descartes
MLK Jr.


I know I'm leaving a couple foreigners out I really think should be in the list, but they'll come to me later
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I know I'm leaving a couple foreigners out I really think should be in the list, but they'll come to me later
Foreign in what sense?

And Solomon is justified an add despite whatever malicious things he was responsible for...the op said great thinkers, not great people. Hell, I included Hitler and Bin Laden for changing the nature of villany with their thinking.

Solomon deserves a shout. Good add.
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I was thinking my list leaned a little heavily toward Americans in the more modern times, but looking back at it I only count three...and one was native American while a second was a first generation immigrant. I had Thomas Jefferson on the list, but I wasn't sure I'd compare him to these others, and as far as I know, he was more a collector of good thoughts than an original source. Maybe Thomas Paine in his stead?

Regarding Solomon, I'm mixed because apparently he had a heavy favoritism towards Judah economically that turned out to be short-sighted strategically. It was bad for unity and bad for defense.
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Well, if you look at it that way, Hitler pretty much destroyed his nation which would say he wasn't that deep of a thinker - and bin Laden has caused a lot of young men to self-destruct. I don't think they are original as much as obsessed.
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Well, if you look at it that way, Hitler pretty much destroyed his nation which would say he wasn't that deep of a thinker - and bin Laden has caused a lot of young men to self-destruct. I don't think they are original as much as obsessed.

I don't discount their innate ability as visionaries just because they used it for evil. I know it's hard to accept, but I believe it's important to know and respect your enemies.

Hitler united Germany before he self-destructed, and tapped into some pretty important primitive instincts and imagery. Bin Laden is doing the same thing in the mid-east. They both shifted the course of history, no small feat.

That sort of thing requires a great mind backed by powerful thought processes. No accidents there, my friend.

I would have included Stalin, but he just rode off the great prowess of Karl Marx.
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completely incomplete, off the top of my head:

Giotto
Pieter Brueghel
Marcel Duchamp
Joh Cage
Sol Lewitt
Alan Kaprow
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(great thinkers are great, but how many people actually are aware of them? one must also focus on the 'lowest common denominator' - cultural icons - which deliver the same messages)
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Isaac Newton - dude invented calculus. He didn't get an "A", wasn't in the honors program, he invented the sh*t. Not to mention the other things he came up with. Newton !!!
Some Greek mathematics was essentially the integral calculus, but they of course didn't put all the pieces together. I'm not sure I'd include Newton myself, simply because the discovery of calculus was inevitable. I mean, Leibnitz discovered it roughly around the same time. The mathematicians who are real noteworthy really turned some ideas on their head or made strong headway in an area. I'm partial to more modern mathematics so I would nominate

Galois
Noether
Cantor
Gödel

Euler of course should be included in any list.

But of course the individual with the deepest insight would have to be L. Ron Hubbard
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