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Old 06-04-07, 07:35 AM   #1
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what's your hot-button

i don't know that i have a hot-button word or phrase that sets me off.

however, i have a real problem with people being condescending. especially if they truly don't even realize they're being condescending (so intent doesn't matter in my book). i can actually respect a person who recognizes they're being condescending before/during/after more so than a person who doesn't realize it.

sensitive subjects of condescention for me {believe it or not**; race, gender, or characteristics of one's self that we cannot change (at least without a labotomy or plastic surgery).
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Old 06-04-07, 07:47 AM   #2
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sensitive subjects of condescention for me {believe it or not**; race, gender, or characteristics of one's self that we cannot change (at least without a labotomy or plastic surgery).
i'll point it out before anyone else.....i can understand how this statement in and of itself sounds condescending (or holier than thou) to some people.
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People who get upset/angry/insulted when you ask for some evidence or experience to support an argument they're trying to make tend to do it for me.
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Sometimes nothing. Sometimes everything.

It is all situational ..
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People who show a blatant lack of intelligence and no desire or or motivation to correct their deficit.
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It is all situational ..
good point. for the sake of the thread, describe the last situation that set you off....

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describe similar situations that set you off in similar manners.......situations and responses that happened often enough to call them "patterns."
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I can't stand it when people think they know what they're talking about, and clearly don't.

I also get frustrated when grown adults adhere to black-white one-liner soundbite views of their world.

Even worse are people who do know what they're talking about, but can't apply that brain power to their own lack of critical thinking. Those are the dangerous ones - they have knowledge to back up their bias (yes we're all guilty of that to some degree, but some much more so than others).
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i don't know that i have a hot-button word or phrase that sets me off.

however, i have a real problem with people being condescending. especially if they truly don't even realize they're being condescending (so intent doesn't matter in my book). i can actually respect a person who recognizes they're being condescending before/during/after more so than a person who doesn't realize it.

sensitive subjects of condescention for me {believe it or not**; race, gender, or characteristics of one's self that we cannot change (at least without a labotomy or plastic surgery).
Condescension is relative. Am I a jerk because I have no patience for fools? I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with being condescending towards an idiot, once I've decided they're an idiot and they're never going to learn or listen.

Also, I don't think that it is accurate to apply "condescention" to the issues you list. I can only be condescending of someone's personality or thoughts. I don't know how I can be condescending about a big nose. I can be a shallow jerk about it, but condescending?
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I can't stand it when people think they know what they're talking about, and clearly don't.

I also get frustrated when grown adults adhere to black-white one-liner soundbite views of their world.

Even worse are people who do know what they're talking about, but can't apply that brain power to their own lack of critical thinking. Those are the dangerous ones - they have knowledge to back up their bias.
My god, how do you stand BikeForums, then? Or any forum, for that matter?
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Social martyrs really annoy the crap out of me. I'm talking about people at family gatherings that won't take a chair just to not crowd people at the table and would rather wash the dishes while everyone else is uncomfortably having dinner.
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I can't stand it when people think they know what they're talking about, and clearly don't.

I also get frustrated when grown adults adhere to black-white one-liner soundbite views of their world.

Even worse are people who do know what they're talking about, but can't apply that brain power to their own lack of critical thinking. Those are the dangerous ones - they have knowledge to back up their bias.
interesting. we probably are similar in that respect.

can you give a recent example (besides my original post!)
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Social martyrs really annoy the crap out of me. I'm talking about people at family gatherings that won't take a chair just to not crowd people at the table and would rather wash the dishes while everyone else is uncomfortably having dinner.
Maybe they just don't like the company and are trying to occupy their time until it's safe to politely leave the function.
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Condescension is relative. Am I a jerk because I have no patience for fools? I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with being condescending towards an idiot, once I've decided they're an idiot and they're never going to learn or listen.

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characteristics of one's self that we cannot change
this is the operative (and debatable) phrase. so, yeah, potentially you could be a jerk (or worse CUDDLEFISH) using my BIASED definition. it all depends.

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My hot button is bullies. I don't care if it is verbal or physical. Pick on someone smaller than yourself in my presence at your own risk - my wife says I pretty much lose it. The last time it happened my wife quickly explained to the bully he was in risk of spending some quality time in a hospital bed and that he should apologize immediately if not sooner. He did but it still took me about 30 minutes to calm down.

Insults to me personally seem to have much less effect.
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passive aggressive behavior. If you've got a problem, just say it dammit!
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Man, never live in Costa Rica then. They have it as an art form!
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good point. for the sake of the thread, describe the last situation that set you off....

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describe similar situations that set you off in similar manners.......situations and responses that happened often enough to call them "patterns."
Okay. Fat people who raid the junk vending machine for Cheetos or Chocolate bars and then go for a diet soda.

That was the last one.
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Man, never live in Costa Rica then. They have it as an art form!
same with my mom's side of the family and my in-laws!
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Man, never live in Costa Rica then. They have it as an art form!
Also, never EVER work in a hospital, anywhere, ever.
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People who show a blatant lack of intelligence and no desire or or motivation to correct their deficit.
+1

Even worse are those who know they're ignorant and take some bizarre pride in the fact.


Another item for me is people with a sense of entitlement who have done nothing to earn it. This drives me up a wall, but I think it's getting more and more common, especially in young people. As far as I'm concerned, the only thing everyone is entitled to is an opportunity to do what they want with their life - everything beyond that must be earned.
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Man, never live in Costa Rica then. They have it as an art form!
Based on my own observations, this is likely cultural.
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This is a good one: people who judge

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This is a good one: people who judge

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.. I really hate myself a great deal and very often.
ditto. i have to kick my own a$$ every now and again just to make up for it.
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Based on my own observations, this is likely cultural.
Yes, you are correct. It is very interesting the differences in culture between here and there. For example, with a bad employee there:

First talk to make sure they understand.
Second - warn them to do it right.
Third - yell at them to make sure they know you are serious
Fourth - fire them

Here
First talk to make sure they understand
Second - Fire them

If you yell, they will just leave - with cause. They would prefer to be fired than be yelled at.

Yell at someone who is waiting on you and service will slow to a standstill...

But, on the flip side - treat people right and they sure take care of you - you had better show respect at all times though.
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