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Old 06-16-07, 08:23 AM   #1
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Who Killed Rock & Roll?

The 80's music thread got me to reminiscing. There used to be a lot of great rock bands in the 60's, 70's, 80's and a little in the early ninties, but then something happened. Who killed it? Was it rap/ hip-hop or Nirvana?
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MTV.

Oh, and Stacey.
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Something called "bad taste."
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you do not listen to the variety of Rock and Roll. It never died. It's doing fine. Just the US media will do all in it's power to not let you hear it. Radio is for selling crap not for entertaining. Just as news is marketed, so is entertainment. The list of awesome artists is huge. The list could go on and on.
A few Jason Kraz, Blues Traveler, Train, Barenaked Ladies, Jack Johnson, Duncan Sheik, Keane, Collective Soul, Howie Day, Cowboy Junkies, Jayhawks, Neil Finn, Dishwalla, Robert Bradley's Blackwater Surprise, Natalie Merchant. Great talent out there, if they will let you hear it.
wanta hear some good music.
I suggest this link will tell you how it is possible.

http://www.futureofmusic.org/
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you do not listen to the variety of Rock and Roll. It never died. It's doing fine. Just the US media will do all in it's power to not let you hear it. Radio is for selling crap not for entertaining. Just as news is marketed, so is entertainment. The list of awesome artists is huge. The list could go on and on.
A few Jason Kraz, Blues Traveler, Train, Barenaked Ladies, Jack Johnson, Duncan Sheik, Keane, Collective Soul, Howie Day, Cowboy Junkies, Jayhawks, Neil Finn, Dishwalla, Robert Bradley's Blackwater Surprise, Natalie Merchant. Great talent out there, if they will let you hear it.
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I suggest this link will tell you how it is possible.

http://www.futureofmusic.org/
Hardly anyone listens to Rock & Roll, it's dead.
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Depends on what you would consider rock and roll. I listen to Indie Rock and Nu Metal.

My guess is people wanted to push the envelope and it turned into heavy metal, then everybody realized that it heavy metal sucked. It got to the point (and still is in some parts) where anyone that could scream and play power chords could do metal, leaving a big hole between metal and softcore stuff. Around this time, the rap scene began and somehow filled that hole with a younger crowd.

The things I listen to are a mixture between alternative and metal. It sounds strange, but when you hear a crushing blow on the guitar followed by vocals that have an almost unlimited range, it hits home pretty hard.

When you go to a CD store or browse iTunes, czech out the band Chevelle, especially their new album "Vena Sera". Give Breaking Benjamin a look as well.
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Train? Jack Johnson? Barenaked Ladies?

Is this what passes for rock?!?!?!?!

I'm going to go kill myself now.

Screw it, I'll just put on Zep I...

...good times bad times, you know I've had my share, well my woman left home for a brown-eyed man, but I still don't seem to care

Ahhh, much better

There is definitely some rock to be had, although it's pretty slim pickings. Honkin' On Bobo by Aerosmith is a fairly recent album that I would consider rock, but apart from that, I haven't really heard any recent music that I would classify as rock. Lots of local rock bands around the place, but nothing commercial.

Hang on, isn't that how rock is supposed to be??? I think maybe it's just returned to an earlier form where people do rock for the love of it (it used to be about the music man ), rather than as a purely commercial venture.
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we all have our own definitions of rock and roll. It's a big tent. Aerosmith never did anything for this house.
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People have been saying rock is dead for so long the statement itself is completely ridiculous. There seems to be this standard whereby adults stop appreciating new music and only consider music of their generation to be 'real'. How sad. People do not stop making good art just because you turned 30.

Open your mind.
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This type of thread goes far beyond cliche.
Sure the taste of popular culture will change and lots of music sucks today as it always has.
Rock and Roll is not now nor has it ever been about a few "classic rock" bands from the 60s and 70s.
Rock and Roll is still quite relevant, are you?
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Amen to that. Those dirty bastards.

I point my finger at bands like Korn, Disturbed, Linkin Park, Kid Rock, and all the other largely worthless trash that has the nerve to call themselves rock bands.

Good rock is still out there, but fading fast. Bands like The Who, Steppenwolf, The Doors, Motley Crue, Megadeth, Dio doing various shows, Twisted Sister, Ozzy, Blue Oyster Cult, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Rush, Thin Lizzy, Rush, they're still out there and actively touring. But they're getting old, and few big time acts are stepping up to the plate to replace them, and that is largely because of ****** bags like the ****ers at Clear Channel.
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Wow....that's EXACTLY what I was going to say.


First off, rock is NOT dead. There's still plenty of good rock bands. But rock sure took a hard blow back around late 80s to early 90s. I blame hair bands (Poison being the most classic example).....they really pussified rock. So much so that suddenly bands that were real rock didn't want to be associated with them and called themselves "alternative rock" just to distinguish themselves.
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I think Phil Spector shot it in 1997. He said it had to be put down.

Really though there is still plenty of rock to be had out there, it just takes a little digging to find it. What do you consider rock?
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Do YOU remember Rock and Roll Radio?
I'm fairly certain with the amount of drugs that went through their veins, they certainly don't remember it.
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Considering most of them are dead.
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And none of their last names were Ramone.
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It did at one point.
those days are gone, and they were awesome! now MTV sends half the time with tacky celebrity gossips shows
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God, I thought I was bitter and old, you guys take the cake. You definition of rock is really narrow minded, sheesh.

Rock isn't dead, it fought and evolved defined by the rockers who started it. Rock isn't stagnent (thank god) it ever evolves and becomes different. Thats what is great about rock. If rock was still in the 70's, it really would be dead.

Rock isn't dead, the rock is just dead inside most of you.
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Amen to that. Those dirty bastards.

I point my finger at bands like Korn, Disturbed, Linkin Park, Kid Rock, and all the other largely worthless trash that has the nerve to call themselves rock bands.

Good rock is still out there, but fading fast. Bands like The Who, Steppenwolf, The Doors, Motley Crue, Megadeth, Dio doing various shows, Twisted Sister, Ozzy, Blue Oyster Cult, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Rush, Thin Lizzy, Rush, they're still out there and actively touring. But they're getting old, and few big time acts are stepping up to the plate to replace them, and that is largely because of ****** bags like the ****ers at Clear Channel.
Curious, how do you feel about the fact ozzy loves a lot of the new rock (industrial, alt, that weird **** from england etc) and funded most of the bands you hate creating a huge buzz for that "non" rock with his many festivals. If you think those killed rock, than ozzy was at the forefront taking rock down.

I agree everyone you named is rock, your viewpoint on the subject is freaking narrow though, and what the hell is clear channel.
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