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Old 06-16-07, 10:01 PM   #1
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I'm taking Visual Basics.NET next fall for school...

I want to learn a bit hefore hand, so I can come in class prepared as ever and ace that class...I wouldn't mind a 95+ bringing up my GPA. Anything I can do!? Thanks.

(I read VB.NET for Dummies at Borders today...um is all I have to say. Lets see Format1 or Form1 is all I got out of it )
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Do you have a VB.NET compiler? Just start trying to make some programs. I can help you with some program ideas to help ease the building blocks one by one if you like.
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If you don't have a VB.NET compiler, here's a link I found to what looks like a free "express" edition of MS VB.NET compiler.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/windows/#
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If you don't have a VB.NET compiler, here's a link I found to what looks like a free "express" edition of MS VB.NET compiler.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/windows/#
Thanks I downloaded it.
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I want to learn a bit hefore hand, so I can come in class prepared as ever and ace that class...I wouldn't mind a 95+ bringing up my GPA. Anything I can do!? Thanks.

(I read VB.NET for Dummies at Borders today...um is all I have to say. Lets see Format1 or Form1 is all I got out of it )
Beyond the logistics of the compiler, I love the "learn in 21 days" series. Really takes you from nothng to being able to write basic programs quickly. VEry structured (which helps the learning) and teaches enough basic variety that when you get good enough you have a sense of direction. If you rip through the 21 days series, you go to the unleashed series for a specific skillset.
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If you are in college, its likely your school has a MSDNAA program where you can download Visual Studio for free. If not, you can pick up a retail copy of Visual Studio for around $50 from academicsuperstore or something like that.

VB.NET isn't like VB 6. Because of the Common Language Runtime environment, it has to support every construct that C++ and C# do. If you are familar with C++ or Java, VB.NET will be almost trivial to get.
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Old 06-18-07, 01:26 AM   #8
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The best tip I can give is that software is 10% code and 90% planning & understanding. Your class will almost certainly concentrate on the 10% (and probably teach 2% of it), since just about everyone is new to the language. Keep in mind that what you will be taught and the little apps that you make will simply ignore the 90%. If you want to do coding in the future, be sure to find out what that other part is some day. You will not be taught any meaningful techniques in a beginner-level class, just the language itself.

As for passing the class easily - just do little fun and meaningless apps. Understand what does what and so on. It should be pretty easy to pass if you can put together... say, a 4-function calculator.
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If "Form1" is all you got out of it... I'd wait for the class, then.

You might try finding out what textbook your class uses, though, and buying it early. Myself, when I had to take a VB.Net class, they used Programming in Visual Basic.NET by Julia Case Bradley and Anita C. Millspaugh. EXCELLENT book.
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http://www.xtremevbtalk.com/

These forums are a great resource for everything VB, they have some links to tutorials in the .Net forums.
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Beyond the logistics of the compiler, I love the "learn in 21 days" series. Really takes you from nothng to being able to write basic programs quickly. VEry structured (which helps the learning) and teaches enough basic variety that when you get good enough you have a sense of direction. If you rip through the 21 days series, you go to the unleashed series for a specific skillset.
+1 on this suggestion EJ.

When I learned C about 15 years ago, I picked up a Sams "Learn C in 21 days" before the semester started and I was way ahead of the game. I really picked up a LOT by going through that book before the class such that most of what was taught was trivial to me already.
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The best tip I can give is that software is 10% code and 90% planning & understanding. Your class will almost certainly concentrate on the 10% (and probably teach 2% of it), since just about everyone is new to the language. Keep in mind that what you will be taught and the little apps that you make will simply ignore the 90%. If you want to do coding in the future, be sure to find out what that other part is some day. You will not be taught any meaningful techniques in a beginner-level class, just the language itself.

As for passing the class easily - just do little fun and meaningless apps. Understand what does what and so on. It should be pretty easy to pass if you can put together... say, a 4-function calculator.
Most college classes nowadays teach some of that 90% I think. The concept of "software engineering" (which pretty much is what that 90% is all about) is a big topic in college programming nowadays. It wasn't so much when I was in college, but its pretty standard now.

That being said, I think EJ is still in high school, so who knows how thorough it will be.
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Do small projects at your house, get a good book on the language you want to learn, not a "For Dummies" book, and Google is your friend. Those are the three keys to learning and doing well in a language.

Also, if your teacher is any good, stop by for help as often as you need to, just make sure they show you how to do it with out doing it for you, if that happens to often your screwed in the long term.
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Oh, that's one thing about the book I recommended...

While the exercises gave you a design to work with, I do believe there were bits about proper UI design, and talking to your clients about the design.
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How's the VB going, EJ?
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