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Old 06-27-07, 06:44 AM   #1
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I hate the Army Physical Fitness Test...

...but I passed it, and I don't have to run for another 6 months!! Woohoo!!!

So despite being a semi-OK cyclist, I suck at running and have not much upper body strength. So when the time comes for my semi-annual Army Physical Fitness Test, I start having anxiety attacks.

But today was different. I guess all this racing has gotten me into pretty good shape, because without any running-specific training I was able to shave over a minute off my 2-mile run time! I'm usually in the "barely passing, in danger of failing" category when I run, so to cross the line with plenty of time to spare was a good, good feeling today.

I think I might do some more running in the coming year just because it's easier to go for a run and it burns more calories in less time, but I still hate it.

Oh well, I'm good for another 6 months, and deep down I'm glad I have to do this because it's very easy to become a total slug when you're working the crazy resident hours...
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Old 06-27-07, 06:53 AM   #2
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I always hated the run part. I can't stand running. That was part of the reason I got out of the Navy. Seriously, the furthest I would ever have to run was from Shaft Alley to Fire Control, not exactly a long distance on a sub.
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Old 06-27-07, 06:56 AM   #3
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my problem was always the running. i could usually get 85 to 90% on the pushups and situps, then totally blow the run. best time ever was 13:00 at the end of basic. it went downhill from there...

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Old 06-27-07, 06:57 AM   #4
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cant the army have a bike unit, like they do in Italy.
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Old 06-27-07, 06:59 AM   #5
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cant the army have a bike unit, like they do in Italy.

You would still have to run.
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...but I passed it, and I don't have to run for another 6 months!! Woohoo!!!

So despite being a semi-OK cyclist, I suck at running and have not much upper body strength. So when the time comes for my semi-annual Army Physical Fitness Test, I start having anxiety attacks.

But today was different. I guess all this racing has gotten me into pretty good shape, because without any running-specific training I was able to shave over a minute off my 2-mile run time! I'm usually in the "barely passing, in danger of failing" category when I run, so to cross the line with plenty of time to spare was a good, good feeling today.

I think I might do some more running in the coming year just because it's easier to go for a run and it burns more calories in less time, but I still hate it.

Oh well, I'm good for another 6 months, and deep down I'm glad I have to do this because it's very easy to become a total slug when you're working the crazy resident hours...
Nice work...I actually started running about 6-8 weeks ago for the reason you stated above. There are days where I just don't want to put in the time commitment on my bike, but a good run takes about half the time. Plus, I do beleive there is benefit from cross training. At least that's what I tell myself as I too really don't like running.

If you have no upper body strength, as you stated, where or where is this 204 pounds you carry? Actually, since we're in Foo....don't answer
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Old 06-27-07, 07:16 AM   #7
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If you have no upper body strength, as you stated, where or where is this 204 pounds you carry? Actually, since we're in Foo....don't answer
Well, I have some good NE European genes (lean arms/legs, flabby torso), so it's all in my belly flab.

And I do have a fair amount of muscle mass in my legs now--racing helped a LOT with that. The goal for the next year is to get all that dead weight off the top half.
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Old 06-27-07, 08:21 AM   #8
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I think you still recalled my motivational technique from the last go round.

Good Job Doc!
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Old 06-27-07, 08:25 AM   #9
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I was in the USMC and we had to run 3 miles for our PFT. I always hated it, especially since the run course went through the fields we had on base. I would manage to find a rut or a gopher hole every single time. The best I ever did was 21:30, which, when you are my size is not terrible (I'm 6'7" and weighed 255 when I was in). I could max out the situps, and I usually did ok on the pullups.
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Old 06-27-07, 08:31 AM   #10
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Good job Pete! When I was in, the run was never my favorite (why was this always on the hottest day of the year ), but I always totally bonked on pullups. I could squeeze out maybe 3, but for some reason, they just killed me, and still do- maybe it's a mental thing, because I can do chins till the cows come home.
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Old 06-27-07, 09:27 AM   #11
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Do some weight training, those toothpick arms are weak!! Weak I tell you!

Once I get more money, I was going to get some weights for some weight training. Cyclists with upper body strength are .
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Old 06-27-07, 09:48 AM   #12
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I think you still recalled my motivational technique from the last go round.

Good Job Doc!
Hehe... thanks.

I guess if I actually train for running I might be able to shave even more time off... It would help me get rid of some of my dead weight too.
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Old 06-27-07, 10:22 AM   #13
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Pete,

If you're ever my way--I know, unlikely--I'll take you on a run that'll knock your socks off! It's a park trail where you have to stay alert or you could get snagged by rock, root, or stump. There's a little bit of everything from negotiating fallen trees, to rock-only paths over the muddy remnants of a stream, to water crossings over rocks and boulders. It's my favorite trail to run on--Gunpowder Falls Park at Belair Rd.
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Old 06-27-07, 11:41 AM   #14
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Do some weight training, those toothpick arms are weak!! Weak I tell you!

Once I get more money, I was going to get some weights for some weight training. Cyclists with upper body strength are .

I DO weight training, but it's my lats not my arms that are the problem. That's why I can do chins but not pullups. I agree re: upper body strength, but female ones... they can wear pink and get away with it (ducking)
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Old 06-27-07, 11:53 AM   #15
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Do you guys have the option of swimming vice running? Navy does
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Old 06-27-07, 01:34 PM   #16
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Nope--the only way you avoid the run is with a permanent profile, i.e. documentation of some permanent injury that keeps you from running.
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Old 06-27-07, 01:38 PM   #17
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What happens if you don't pass the test, DrPete?
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Old 06-27-07, 01:45 PM   #18
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i know your pain...but i don't care what anyone says...running is probably the best overall test of physical ability the Military has...you can't just go do it...it requires you to actually be in good shape, both aerobic and anarobic, as far as the upper body goes...i think most cyclist are seroiusly lacking in that department..luckily i have a job that requires me to be in shape for both upper and lower body.

Personnally i think the military fitness test need to be harder...too many fat kids in all the branches...i am more than willing to suck up extra work to boot somebody who couldn't pull my a$$ out of a hot LZ or a burning compartment on a ship.
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Old 06-27-07, 02:02 PM   #19
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I remember the last time I took that test. One mile run on a 1/3 rd mile track. I was the only cyclist on the base and no one but no one else got any exercise aside from softball for the troops. I lapped everyone else including the guy who came in second. The sergeant doing the timing stopped his watch at 7'59" for the rest of them so the whole base would not be forced into a series of PT drills.
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Old 06-27-07, 02:28 PM   #20
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What happens if you don't pass the test, DrPete?
You get told what a bad soldier you are, it goes on your record, etc. etc. and you have to keep re-testing till you pass.

Crash, I agree with you that the testing standards are kind of a joke IF you're actually in a line job that 1. requires physical activity and 2. has lots of built-in time for working out. It was pretty easy to pass my test after a month with an infantry unit, for example, because part of their normal work day included time for organized PT.

In my little corner of the world, it's just not that important. Granted a certain baseline level of fitness and professional appearance is important, but my value on the battlefield isn't judged by how far/fast I can run--it's how many guys I can stabilize/fix with a given number of resources in a given time. And my day to day existence doesn't have any time built in for PT, so I stick with what keeps me sane, i.e. cycling.

I'm done whining now.
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Army PT is for wussy.

When I was stationed in Yuma, we had more incentive to fail our PFT or go over our height/weight standards...you got put on the fat body platoon which required you to report every morning for aerobics with Joy and her instructors....each an every one a minimum of a 9 in the hotness department. That freakin aerobics will wear you out, but it seemed to go by so fast in the company of such beauties.

Of course the whole thing was my idea...once they put me in charge of the fat body platoon for suggesting to the skipper that the previous program was lame and worthless.
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Of course the whole thing was my idea...once they put me in charge of the fat body platoon for suggesting to the skipper that the previous program was lame and worthless.

See what you get for volunteering? Didn't anybody ever tell you never to volunteer for anything in the service?
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Well now I think I need to take an APFT every race day. I raced tonight and felt freakin' great!
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See what you get for volunteering? Didn't anybody ever tell you never to volunteer for anything in the service?
And opening your big mouth to ***** about something is a form of volunteering...yet it I opened it anyway, my fatal flaw. Of course nobody in BF would EVER believe that about me!

But in this case, getting to hang with dozens of hot gals in skimpy spandex every morning versus doing actual work...ha, no brainer.
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I was in an armor unit that had an ex-drill instructor for a first sargeant.His hobby was running marathons.We ran the PT test every week......Then fixed tanks.......then drank alot of beer and smoked alot of marlboros.....then maybe slept a little.....repeat.That was in the rear.We spent more than half our time in the field and PT got pretty spotty then.Top would usually find away to do his friggin' PT at any available opportunity.I think some Marine called him a "Wussy" and it made him mad.
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