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Old 07-04-07, 11:43 AM   #1
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Hawaii? Miami? Denver? Bay Area? Where would you go?

I'm about to graduate this year and will be applying for Teach for America. Essentially you give them two years in low income districts, they teach you how to teach (often get you certified). I want to teach high school but am not an education major...

I live in the chicago area and kind of want to leave, at least for a little while. Keep in mind that anywhere i go is not going to be in very "nice" area's, nor would i be able to afford such a thing.

That said, i get to request where i want to go...i'm just not sure yet.
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Oh I wish I had YOUR dilemma.......*sigh*
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Old 07-04-07, 11:45 AM   #3
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Don't kid yourself though, i'm certainly not. There is a reason why this program exists...people don't want to teach there. There is a reason why people don't want to teach there.
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Then come to Cali. I'll introduce you to Jon.
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Having been to each of those places, I vote for Denver. If housing wasn't so dang expensive, San Francisco would have been my first choice. Oh, and it's closer to Siu.
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Look at the pros and cons, and evaluate what lifestyle and activities you enjoy. The places you've listed are very different.

Miami would be scratched pre-emptively, if that was my list. It's dead flat, super congested, has a high crime rate, has miserable weather in the summer, and lots of locals look down their noses at you and treat you rudely if you don't speak Spanish (Cuban-Spanish) fluently.

I'd be torn between the Bay area and Hawaii (I've lived both places). If you like bike riding a lot, choose the Bay area. If you want to enjoy a more relaxed pace of life and a pleasant year-round climate, Hawaii wins. I guess that if you're a ski bum, Denver would win out.
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Really zorro they all fit my life style.

My ideal place to live would be close to the mountains in the winter and close to the beach in the summer. I like to ski, i like to cycle, i like to take photographs. Now while Denver doesn't have an ocean, it has lakes, and while CA has an ocean, its mountains are not the Rockies...i say they balance.

I really think i'd enjoy a place like San Diego, but that isn't an option. This is all likely temporary, as ya'll know i slipped and fell in love with a girl and she's a bit of a homebody, unfortunately. In the meantime...
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Really zorro they all fit my life style.

My ideal place to live would be close to the mountains in the winter and close to the beach in the summer. I like to ski, i like to cycle, i like to take photographs. Now while Denver doesn't have an ocean, it has lakes, and while CA has an ocean, its mountains are not the Rockies...i say they balance.

I really think i'd enjoy a place like San Diego, but that isn't an option. This is all likely temporary, as ya'll know i slipped and fell in love with a girl and she's a bit of a homebody, unfortunately. In the meantime...
The Bay Area isn't that far from Lake Tahoe, so getting away to ski isn't that tough. You won't get island fever after 3 months (I need to get off this rock!), and has way more options for rides than you'd have in Hawaii, and you won't have unescapable cold for 6 months of the year like you would in Denver. There is the peril of earthquakes there, and traffic kind of bites, but it definitely will set you up for the most options out of the four locations on your list.
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The Bay Area isn't that far from Lake Tahoe, so getting away to ski isn't that tough. You won't get island fever after 3 months (I need to get off this rock!), and has way more options for rides than you'd have in Hawaii, and you won't have unescapable cold for 6 months of the year like you would in Denver. There is the peril of earthquakes there, and traffic kind of bites, but it definitely will set you up for the most options out of the four locations on your list.
Hmmm, how's the golf?
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Hmmm, how's the golf?
I think I only played a single round while I lived there (in Petaluma with my boss), but they do have some decent courses. I suppose you may have heard of Pebble Beach? It's likely to be rather pricey, but that would be the case in Hawaii too, unless you're in the service. I'd ask bikingshearer that question, as he's a longer time resident, and as a lawyer, probably has far more disposable income than I ever dreamt of.
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Maybe check out: Charlotte, Nashville, Fayetteville, Tulsa, Austin, and Colorado Springs.
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Maybe check out: Charlotte, Nashville, Fayetteville, Tulsa, Austin, and Colorado Springs.
Yeah. Great skiing and beaches right out your door in those first five locales.
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My options aren't as flexible as that anyways.
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I'd opt for denver. Safer than any of the other options, including Hawaii since they have such strict gun laws. And Colorado is quite a pretty place.
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I'd opt for denver. Safer than any of the other options, including Hawaii since they have such strict gun laws. And Colorado is quite a pretty place.
Hawaii is really safe - unless you flip off one of the large local dudes, or take somebody's wave, or join a pick-up rugby game against Samoans and Tongans.
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I'd say SF, if it wasn't for all the darn hippies.
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Temporary - Hawaii
Permanent - San Francisco Bay Area
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Hawaii, when do you figure you will ever get paid to go to Hawaii again?
I agree with emagic, if you are going to stay permanently stay on the mainland, SF sounds nice.
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Since its temporary, I'd go to Hawaii, but if you wanted to stay in the continental US and relatively close to home, Denver. You could probably make the drive in one (long) day.
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Denver mon.. Skiing up I-70, great biking.. even some good golf courses and you can hit some 300+ yard drives no sweat..
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I don't know how to say this tactfully, so I'll just come out with it. You are waaaay too young to teach in a high school setting. It seems every time I turn around I hear another story about a young high school teacher getting in one kind of trouble or another. You just aren't significantly older than the students and that can lead into many problems:
1) Students not giving you respect you deserve
2) Girls (only a few years younger) throwing themselves at you (do NOT assume you love your girlfriend or are too "solid" to let that be a problem......everybody who had the problem thought that too).

Many others if you think about it.

If I were you, I'd consider middle school/junior high for a few years before jumping in to high school.
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Having just moved to FLA Id have tp agree with USAZorro.....
FL would be scratched right away. Im lucky I that Im in a
'civilized' area, but still, the shootings and crime are out
of control. If its like this in West Palm area, I can only
assume that all the negative stuff they say about Miami
here is true. A war zone. Id go Bay area. At least you
have great riding and cities close by.
And, my Wife is an educator, ditto what King T sed....
Go with as young an age group as you can. Middle
School kids are the WORST in her opinion. Try to get elementary.
You shouldnt have too much trouble though, men teachers are
in great demand.
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I grew up in Chicago, moved to the Bay area for 10 years and have now lived in Miami area for 3 years. I've also visited Hawaii. So from my experience the winner is Hawaii, followed by the Bay Area. Fl has nice winters but that is about it, no scenery, no hills, boring, boring, boring. The Bay area is great if you can afford it and don't have to commute 2-3hrs a day.
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